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Old 08-19-2012, 11:33 AM
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Re: Lots of questions??--need help with answers!!

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Old 08-19-2012, 04:14 PM
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Re: Lots of questions??--need help with answers!!

I figured I'd go ahead and give my input to these questions sheila asked.

Why would we have to die first to become immortal?

To shed the vessel we were given charge over.

Why can't we be transformed now?

We are in the middle of a trial, the purpose of the trial being can we govern the earthly vessel/temple that we are given through the events we experience and how we deal with them here on earth.

2 Timothy 2:15
"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."

1 Peter 1:7
"That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:"

It says in the last days that we will be changed in the twinkling of an eye. If were allowed to be changed physically then--then could we ask to become that new creation/creature now rather than later?

No, that would negate the purpose of living here in satans kingdom.. we are supposed to be an example, and use the flesh that we are given unto god and prove that what we are doing is the perfect will of god. If we cannot perform the tasks we are given here on earth, how will we perform the tasks that lay after this?

1 Corinthians 6:3
"Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?"

1 timothy 4:16
"Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee."

Acts 2:40
"And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation."


If we've only been baptized with water, then when do we get baptized, cleansed and scourged with fire by God?

Upon recieving the holy spirit.

Acts 19:2-6
" He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied."


Why would we have to leave Earth to find heaven--is Earth a less important part of God?

Satan is the god of this world.

2 corinthians 4:4

"In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."


Is God really all things and all life? (Colossians 1:15-18)

Christ is the source of all life. All is done to show his glory however...

John 8:44
"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

If he is the father of lies, how could God be the father as well? God is not the only being that creates. We were created in his image and given the ability to think, create what we think, and destroy it all the same and according to the verse above satan can too. Yes god plays a role in all of it by allowing or not allowing it, but free will and things of that sort play into that as well.

Then wouldn't heaven come forth from within?

How would that even be possible unless you were referring to heaven as a mental state... even at that

1 corinthians 2:9

"But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him."

How can it come from within us if we can't even begin to imagine it?


Is God far away and somewhere else or is He within as He said?
Don't we believe Him? Who else would hear our prayers? Why would you need guardian angels when Jesus is whithin?


Where is the biblical proof for guardian angels? I've never heard any such thing. If jesus was already within why would we need the holy spirit. Back to john 8:44, if we are of our father devil before the indwelling of the spirit how could Jesus be within a product of the devil?

God is the one who is all knowing and all powerful and warns not to worship angels. He also said that nothing comes between God and man.

Sin seperates us from god, if thats not true then there is no need for hell or half of the bible.

Angels were used in the old testament--not the new after God revealed the truth.
Shouldn't we beware of angels since a hoard of fallen are on Earth? God says we need nothing and no one but Him.


1 John 4:1 states

"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."

So yes I would be wary, but not all spirits are evil.

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Old 08-20-2012, 08:31 AM
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Re: Lots of questions??--need help with answers!!

Further more to go on the God is within statement.

Ephesians 1:4-6
"According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved."

It uses the word adoption, to be adopted we must belong to something else before hand. That's why using the authority of the name is so important. It is our lineage our direct line to the father, he has given us his name. We hold more power than we know, Jesus himself said this

John 14:12
"Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father."

Greater works than him.... to most that would seem blasphemous... but everything Jesus done appeared blasphemous to the world during his time, and so it would appear to be now, but that also fulfills him saying

John 15:18-27
"If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me. If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloak for their sin. He that hateth me hateth my Father also. If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father. But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause. But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning."
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