Light Shows In Churches

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by BroJoe

Thanks Bro Mike. We absolutely must be fervent in our praise and worship. Jesus DIED for me so that I could have life and life more abundantly.

Only the devil would attempt to put a choke hold on someone's praise.

**EDIT**

I deleted a comment because it was inappropriate. If any saw it, please forgive me.

nobody said you can't jump, yell or dance. But you did say its inappropriate to have colored lights in church.

I'm not the one trying to limit what goes on in service

[BroJoe]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

You said excitement gives birth to praise. You just admitted excitement is not praise.

Right. I'm excited which gives birth to my praise, so I jump. And I dance. And I shout praises to God. Not sure what you're confused on.

Was their dancing done because they got so excited they couldn't contain themselves or was it intentional and coordinated form of praise the psalm was speaking of?

I'm speaking of dancing as a form of praise, which according to your posts, you seem to be against?

Did they only dance during songs with fast beats?

Where did this come from? Lol. Your preconceived notions aren't working here. I dance when I want to dance. I sing when I want to sing.

Btw does the bible say running is praise? Or jumping?

You see running and jumping. I see dancing.

Do you only praise when you get excited?

Nope. I praise if I'm happy. I praise if I'm sad. I praise if I'm upset with someone. Praise to God does not fluctuate based upon my moods or feelings.

Does yours?

[BroJoe]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

nobody said you can't jump, yell or dance. But you did say its inappropriate to have colored lights in church.

I'm not the one trying to limit what goes on in service

Your position, to me, based on what you have said and what I've seen, is that you personally are against the jumping and shouting. My above comment to Mike was directly about the way in which we praise. The comment had nothing to do with light shows.

Light shows have absolutely no room in the church.

Feel free to disagree and go have your light show .

[Praxeas]

Btw those verses did not say to jump to praise or yelling. Yelling praises to God is praise

The world uses lights. The world dances. The world yells. The world gets excited etc etc.

The point is just because the world does it does not make it worldly nor does it mean the church is imitating the world

[BroJoe]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

you seem to be thinking I said they did not have music in the early church because the bible forbids it or did not approve of it.

Dude, you came across as completely against music, against praising in any exuberant fashion, against dancing. Oh and anyone who does are imitating the world...

I'm sitting here thinking, and this guy is pentecostal?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by BroJoe

Your position, to me, based on what you have said and what I've seen, is that you personally are against the jumping and shouting. My above comment to Mike was directly about the way in which we praise. The comment had nothing to do with light shows.

Light shows have absolutely no room in the church.

Feel free to disagree and go have your light show .

you seemed to have already told me once so far I said something/believe something I didnt say.

Why don't light shows have absolutely no room in church?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by BroJoe

Dude, you came across as completely against music, against praising in any exuberant fashion, against dancing. Oh and anyone who does are imitating the world...

I'm sitting here thinking, and this guy is pentecostal?

I never said one word against music. I said I have a hard time not being distracted during prayer when music is blaring.

[BroJoe]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Btw those verses did not say to jump to praise or yelling. Yelling praises to God is praise

You're right, it said dance. You see jumping and screaming. I see dancing and praising!

The world uses lights. The world dances. The world yells. The world gets excited etc etc.

I'm in complete agreement. Perhaps you didn't read my earlier response in the thread regarding that "type" of statement.

We say "If they can dance and yell for their god (their god being sports)..how much more should we do it for our God?"

If they can get excited about their god who just ran a touch down..how come I can't get excited about my God who made a touch down in my life?

The point is just because the world does it does not make it worldly

Then what is worldly? Honestly, tell me. If the world is doing it, and it's not worldly, my God, what is it then? Please tell me.

[Praxeas]

Thats fine Joe as I said you need excitement to he'll you praise but excitement is not praise. For you it LEADS to praise

[BroJoe]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

you seemed to have already told me once so far I said something/believe something I didnt say.

Why don't light shows have absolutely no room in church?

Inferred from your posts.

So far, I'm now coming to the conclusion that you are being contrary just to be contrary.

To answer your question, I'd have to ask another question. Why would some find it necessary to have light shows in the first place?

Does a club atmosphere provide the opportunity for God to work in?

Because that's all I think when I see the light shows...Club. First thing I think of.

"Hey...I've been to the club before...why does this look so much like a club?"