I did see someone on the news discussion thread say he should be tried for manslaughter, and someone else accuse that one of thinking the father should have stood and watched the guy molest his daughter. Funny.
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Then why do we have "stand your ground" laws ? Self defence laws ?
If their were not factions against it what would be the need for the laws?
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Then why do we have "stand your ground" laws ? Self defence laws ?
If their were not factions against it what would be the need for the laws?
I think what they are against is unnecessarily killing. E.g., in this case, nobody would in their right minds think the father should have done absolutely nothing, or even perhaps just call 911 and wait for the cops to stop the guy. But that's the way the "liberals" are characterized in their views.
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I think what they are against is unnecessarily killing. E.g., in this case, nobody would in their right minds think the father should have done absolutely nothing, or even perhaps just call 911 and wait for the cops to stop the guy. But that's the way the "liberals" are characterized in their views.
I think the problem is he didn't use a weapon. Because you have to wonder how long it took to stop him for one thing. And then to beat him to death. But, heat of the moment, I don't think he will be prosecuted.
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The only problem I have with cases like this is that it is close to IMPOSSIBLE to prove that the person left alive is telling a lie or the truth.
Our laws make it better to kill and leave no witnesses than so that "justice" is not interfered with.
If it happened to my child, I'd have the same response as this father-- but how do we know that this is what happened?
Does the accused and executed have any rights? Who speaks for his/her spilled blood?
A person can kill another person and say whatever-- if there aren't any witnesses, who is the wiser?
I think you mean our system is less than perfect... and I would agree.
But, can you think of any other possible way the law might handle this?
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The only problem I have with cases like this is that it is close to IMPOSSIBLE to prove that the person left alive is telling a lie or the truth.
Our laws make it better to kill and leave no witnesses than so that "justice" is not interfered with.
If it happened to my child, I'd have the same response as this father-- but how do we know that this is what happened?
Does the accused and executed have any rights? Who speaks for his/her spilled blood?
A person can kill another person and say whatever-- if there aren't any witnesses, who is the wiser?
I think that is the only thing that would make the Grand Jury pause. What he did AFTER he got him off his child.
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2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
Who has said self-defense is only the right of the state?
The head of some non-profit who feels he should be charged with manslaughter and that he didn't have the right to decide on summary execution. Basically according to this bozo the father had the right to "stop" the perp via restraint but the state has the only rights to "punish". Even in a situation like this.
And killing him takes away the ability for him to sue after the fact (no doubt with the help of a multitude of radical Hispanic legal defense groups).
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