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05-21-2012, 08:21 AM
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Re: Same God or different God?
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Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam
The author of I Cor neither knew Jesus nor met him.
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1 And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,
2 And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.
3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:
4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do
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You are the (third) who has dodged this question. Answer it or not. I believe that Every single one of you know the answer and that there is some discomfort in saying the words.
What I do not know is why.
Here is the question.
???? who. did. Jesus. pray. to. ????
We do know and we can answer because we also pray to Him. No sign required.
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5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Rom 9
1 I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,
2 That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart.
3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;
5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
So, the bible teaches that Jesus is God and, He came in the likeness of a man. So, as a man, he obviously prayed to God. He did not stop being the OMNIPRESENT God while he was on earth physically.
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05-21-2012, 08:38 AM
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Re: Same God or different God?
"Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus"
It's like you guys read Scripture in a vacuum, wadr.
I was made in God's image too; am I God?
I am "Son of Man," too...
Hey, pray to whom you will;
I'd sure be careful if I were preaching tho.
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05-21-2012, 08:57 AM
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Re: Same God or different God?
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"Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus"
It's like you guys read Scripture in a vacuum, wadr.
I was made in God's image too; am I God?
I am "Son of Man," too...
Hey, pray to whom you will;
I'd sure be careful if I were preaching tho.
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Phil 2
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
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05-21-2012, 11:26 AM
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Re: Same God or different God?
Ok, that seems poorly put, if not blasphemy:
5 Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped.
A bit better.
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05-21-2012, 11:41 AM
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Re: Same God or different God?
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Ok, that seems poorly put, if not blasphemy:
5 Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped.
A bit better.
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What are you talking about? isn't that the same scripture I quoted?
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05-21-2012, 11:51 AM
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Re: Same God or different God?
Yes, but sure seems to read differently to me;
a bit closer to the point, and also seems to
contradict the one you quoted?
Could be just the way I read it.
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05-21-2012, 11:53 AM
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Re: Same God or different God?
This is what happens when you have those who would
replace Passover with Easter do your translating for you, imo.
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05-21-2012, 11:57 AM
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Re: Same God or different God?
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This is what happens when you have those who would
replace Passover with Easter do your translating for you, imo.
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Dude, what are you talking about? do you realize the translation you quoted is basically saying Jesus is God?
Let me highlight your OWN translation for you..lol
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Ok, that seems poorly put, if not blasphemy:
5 Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped.
A bit better.
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05-21-2012, 12:12 PM
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Re: Same God or different God?
It's actually the phrase after your bolded that I thot might need help.
God created Adam in His Image, also; and I am increasingly distrustful of anything thru the Greek, personally. I wonder if that isn't a bigger problem than I suspected. These guys were Jews, why am I trying to read them through the Greek, I wonder?
Do you recog Passover, or Ish...Easter?
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05-21-2012, 12:20 PM
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Re: Same God or different God?
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It's actually the phrase after your bolded that I thot might need help.
God created Adam in His Image, also; and I am increasingly distrustful of anything thru the Greek, personally. I wonder if that isn't a bigger problem than I suspected. These guys were Jews, why am I trying to read them through the Greek, I wonder?
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God created Adam in his IMAGE. But what IMAGE does God have other than Christ?
2 Cor 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
God is INVISIBLE. No man (including Adam) has seen nor can see God outside of in Christ.
As for your Adam question,
Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come
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Do you recog Passover, or Ish...Easter?
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What does that have to do with the topic?
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