Obama Supporter: Name 3 Logical Reasons to Reelect

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Sam isn't the issue. You can't defend Obama's record and your blind supprt of him. The only logical justification for supporting Obama is party loyalty, ideology and embracing the lie that Americans cannot exist and subsist without an intrusive, nanny state, overreaching, overbearing federal govt interfering into every corner of our lives. The cowardice lies not in a feckless statements about Obama's religious preference but rather in the unwillingness to admit that Obama took a bad economy and made it worse, took advantage of the crisis at hand to attempt to fundamentally change our way of life and that he has failed to deliver on almost every promise he made in 2008. AND the fact the he called Bush "unpatriotic" for increasing the national debt to new highs and turned around and made Bush look like an amateur when it comes to debt and deficit spending. The cowardice is not holding this prez accountable for his 3.5 years of governance and blithely passing the buck off on Bush.

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[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Sam isn't the issue. You can't defend Obama's record and your blind supprt of him. The only logical justification for supporting Obama is party loyalty, ideology and embracing the lie that Americans cannot exist and subsist without an intrusive, nanny state, overreaching, overbearing federal govt interfering into every corner of our lives. The cowardice lies not in a feckless statements about Obama's religious preference but rather in the unwillingness to admit that Obama took a bad economy and made it worse, took advantage of the crisis at hand to attempt to fundamentally change our way of life and that he has failed to deliver on almost every promise he made in 2008. AND the fact the he called Bush "unpatriotic" for increasing the national debt to new highs and turned around and made Bush look like an amateur when it comes to debt and deficit spending. The cowardice is not holding this prez accountable for his 3.5 years of governance and blithely passing the buck off on Bush.

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Where's the logic in supporting BO?

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

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Where's the logic in supporting BO?

db, i can't reason with you, you are not fair and balanced. unemployment has been going down for two years in a row. have you seen an employment graph for the past 3 years? obama has changed our way of life for the better. we don't have weekly terrorism alerts to frighten us. obama has focused our military on al qaeda not the entire world. there is nothing you can say that will change my view that bush was a disaster and that romney has the same policy plans of bush. we will see in 190 days who is out of touch with reality.

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

db, i can't reason with you, you are not fair and balanced. unemployment has been going down for two years in a row. have you seen an employment graph for the past 3 years? obama has changed our way of life for the better. we don't have weekly terrorism alerts to frighten us. obama has focused our military on al qaeda not the entire world. there is nothing you can say that will change my view that bush was a disaster and that romney has the same policy plans of bush. we will see in 190 days who is out of touch with reality.

Obama wants to fundamentally change the United States.....away from the Constitution and towards Socialism. And we have seen example after example of how well Socilism works. Hasn't it stamped out poverty and brough prosperity to all who live under it. Just look at Europe.......oops maybe we better not use Europes example. How about Russia....nope...Well I'm sure you can show us a good example. By the way "Fairness" is a Progressive code word for Socialism and this is the "Fairness" President.

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

Obama wants to fundamentally change the United States.....away from the Constitution and towards Socialism. And we have seen example after example of how well Socilism works. Hasn't it stamped out poverty and brough prosperity to all who live under it. Just look at Europe.......oops maybe we better not use Europes example. How about Russia....nope...Well I'm sure you can show us a good example. By the way "Fairness" is a Progressive code word for Socialism and this is the "Fairness" President.

name 3 obama socialist policies.

[canam]

stimulous stimulous stimulous

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

name 3 obama socialist policies.

That's easy DM.

Healthcare, Income re-distribution, the government involved with private business in deciding who to reward with loans and who to punish with additional regulations.
Although I would argue that #3 is more of a facist policy.

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

name 3 obama socialist policies.

1. Obamacare
2. Taking over GM
3. Shovel Ready Infrastructure Jobs

As far as BOs record on the economy? He has presided over a record 52 weeks of unemployment at 8% or above. The latest jobs report was lower than expected.

Where is his plan for paying off the debt? The only thing he talks about is taxing the rich but even at a tax rate of 100% the rich don't possess enough wealth to pay off the debt.

When Reagan became President the tax rate on the wealthiest Americans was 70%. After 8 years the rate was dropped to 28%. The income the Federal governement received from taxes in 1981 was $500 billion. In 1988 the Treasury took in almost $1 trillion. Lower taxes means that private citizens keep more of their money which means more economic activity which means economic growth which means jobs which means more taxpayers which means more income for the Federal government. Everyone wins when taxes are cut. My tax bill increased from 2010 to 2011. Yet I'm paying more for groceries, fuel, clothes, utilities and just about every other category.

Kudos to President Obama for bringing an end to Iraq War and taking out Bin Laden. The successes there are combination of the Bush strategy and Obama continuing the strategy. Pretty much most of the heavy lifting was already accomplished by the time BO took office, although Bin Laden was still at large. Bush had eliminated or captured all of the top Al Qaeda guys except Bin Laden. BO made the right call to take him out last year. It may be the only one real accomplishment that history will remember from these four years.

I ask your logic not because I think you can be convinced to vote otherwise, I'm just trying to understand, given the abysmal economic record of the last 3.5 years, what one uses to feel good about reelecting him. I am convinced that either people don't really know the facts, don't understand economics or simply are party line voters who would vote for Jeffery Dahmer if he was the Democratic nominee for president.

My feeling is that you are simply loyal to the liberal/Democrat ideology, and nothing would persuade you otherwise regardless of the dire consequences they are foisting upon our nation and future.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

That's easy DM.

Healthcare, Income re-distribution, the government involved with private business in deciding who to reward with loans and who to punish with additional regulations.
Although I would argue that #3 is more of a facist policy.

Don't confuse socialism with social programs