Here is a question...

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Felicity

My husband gave a man in our church who recently married some words of advice just the other day. It was unsolicited but very necessary. He doesn't usually do this but in this situation felt to and he did the right thing. It was borne out yesterday morning while I was praying with this guy and his new wife in the altar.

I felt really impressed to go pray with them so made my way through the crowd at the altar, put my arms around them both and prayed. The guy turned around after a few minutes and hugged me and thanked me and told me then and there that the pastor had talked with him on Saturday and that he knew the advice was needful. LOL. It was funny kind of knowing him and how honest he was about it.

Then his wife - newly arrived from China - turned and hugged me as well. I know that she's feeling very overwhelmed by the whole cultural change and new marriage and all ......... and her new husband. He's a "choleric" if there ever was one and she's going to have her hands full dealing with him that's for sure. LOL.

There are some situations that warrant getting involved. Like Coonskinner said it depends on the person and situation but normally you wait for the couple or husband or wife to come to you.

Thank you for sharing this, Sis. Felicity...

Pastors and pastor's wives have such a responsibility. You have to know when and how to do or not do, what and how to say and not say...whew!!

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

This is so true. I work on a crisis team and when there is any trouble at all...911 and they go in with mace!

Blessings, Rhoni

Dad told me that more than once, they would go in and have to peal some dude off the woman. The guy would start fighting dad and the other police. Then they would have to subdue him but the woman would turn on the cops and grab something and start hitting them! crazy.

sorry for being off topic.

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Dad told me that more than once, they would go in and have to peal some dude off the woman. The guy would start fighting dad and the other police. Then they would have to subdue him but the woman would turn on the cops and grab something and start hitting them! crazy.

sorry for being off topic.

It's not off topic at all. I can imagine that something not quite as drastic but near to it may have happened to some well meaning pastor along the way.

Pastors really do need the wisdom of Solomon. I heard Bro. Arless Glass say one time that a former member had called him one day, crying, "Pastor, I can't take any more...my husband is this and that and I can't take any more!!"

Bro. Glass spoke in his slow Texan way, and said, "Well, all right...if you're sure you can't take any more, you will get a call later today telling you that he's dead..."

She screamed, "Nono...", but Bro. Glass, "No, wait a minute...you said you couldn't take any more and God said He wouldn't put any more on you, so..."

She said, "I think I can take a little more..."

[whollyHis]

Originally Posted by Barb

What is the role of a pastor/pastor's wife if they see a need...say a marriage problem...something that is evident, but the troubled individuals will not seek counsel?

Should the man and woman of God pray and not approach them?

Should they pray and approach, asking if they would like a chance to talk?

And then there is the 'flip side'...the troubled ask for help, but get no counsel...
thank God, HE is our Counsellor!!!

[Felicity]

They certainly need wisdom for sure and it's available along with understanding if they'll seek for it. What did Solomon say?


Pro 2:1- 11:

My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee;

So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding;

If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures;

Then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God.

For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.

He layeth up sound wisdom for the righteous: he is a buckler to them that walk uprightly

He keepeth the paths of judgment, and preserveth the way of his saints.

Then shalt thou understand righteousness, and judgment, and equity; yea, every good path.

When wisdom entereth into thine heart, and knowledge is pleasant unto thy soul;

Discretion shall preserve thee, understanding shall keep thee:[/COLOR]

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Felicity

They certainly need wisdom for sure and it's available along with understanding if they'll seek for it. What did Solomon say?


Pro 2:1- 11:

My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee;

So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding;

If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures;

Then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God.

For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.

He layeth up sound wisdom for the righteous: he is a buckler to them that walk uprightly

He keepeth the paths of judgment, and preserveth the way of his saints.

Then shalt thou understand righteousness, and judgment, and equity; yea, every good path.

When wisdom entereth into thine heart, and knowledge is pleasant unto thy soul;

Discretion shall preserve thee, understanding shall keep thee:[/COLOR]

Powerful verses...especially that when wisdom enters the heart and knowledge is the joy of the soul, then we are preserved by discretion and kept by understanding.

Awesome!!