Cool poem

[Titus2woman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=1IAhDGYlpqY

[KeptByTheWord]

Thanks for sharing! I need to share this with a few people!!! Religion versus Jesus - awesome thought!!

[JamDat]

I'm seeing many unsaved friends on facebook posting this video. I don't get why they like it so much.

I think all they're hearing is the Jesus hates religion part and not the you're dead in your sins and an enemy of God part. It "looks and sounds cool" because because he's taking a stand against the "self righteous," but then does almost the same thing.

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by JamDat

I'm seeing many unsaved friends on facebook posting this video. I don't get why they like it so much.

I think all they're hearing is the Jesus hates religion part and not the you're dead in your sins and an enemy of God part. It "looks and sounds cool" because because he's taking a stand against the "self righteous," but then does almost the same thing.

I didn't see it that way at all. I think his testimony set to rhyme is very creative and could potentially reach someone I might not. I think it speaks to being 'religious' rather than saved and gives a good picture that salvation is a gift of God and is available to the hearer, no matter what they may have been told by the religious.

If your unsaved friends are posting it then they are probably suffering from feeling judged by the ones they know who are part of the church without understanding why they are feeling as if they don't measure up... Maybe you could use it to open a dialog by asking if you might be someone who made them feel that way.

Remember, people are reached in many ways for God.

[JamDat]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

I didn't see it that way at all. I think his testimony set to rhyme is very creative and could potentially reach someone I might not. I think it speaks to being 'religious' rather than saved and gives a good picture that salvation is a gift of God and is available to the hearer, no matter what they may have been told by the religious.

If your unsaved friends are posting it then they are probably suffering from feeling judged by the ones they know who are part of the church without understanding why they are feeling as if they don't measure up... Maybe you could use it to open a dialog by asking if you might be someone who made them feel that way.

Remember, people are reached in many ways for God.

Or I could explain to them why they don't measure up and then what was done about it.

I think the issue I have with it is that it's really for people who call themselves Christian and the "worldy" (if that makes sense) sinners are taking it out of context. This is what I'm seeing on facebook.

Directed to the proper audience it could have an impact. It's not really that bad of a video. Yet I still find issues with some things in it, but not huge ones. For example I don't think Jesus came to abolish religion, but to take on our punishment so that we could be saved.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by JamDat

Or I could explain to them why they don't measure up and then what was done about it.

I think the issue I have with it is that it's really for people who call themselves Christian and the "worldy" (if that makes sense) sinners are taking it out of context. This is what I'm seeing on facebook.

Directed to the proper audience it could have an impact. It's not really that bad of a video. Yet I still find issues with some things in it, but not huge ones. For example I don't think Jesus came to abolish religion, but to take on our punishment so that we could be saved.

http://gospeldrivenchurch.blogspot.c...religious.html

There's a blog post you might enjoy.

I see both sides of this. I did post the video on my facebook, and it has opened discussion with someone. Not a Christian someone either. I also posted this to one of my pastors..when he posted this link.

I was a little hesitant to click on this link! But I actually really like what he has to say. He's right, there is a distinction that has to be made. Looking at things from a purely Christian/churched point of view, I line up very easily with this blog post. Religion as God designed it is a precious and beautiful thing, the living out of relationship with Him. Jesus was religious, in every good sense of the word.

But. For those who are unchurched and unreached and do not know Jesus, this video speaks their language. I try very hard to maintain that perspective, no matter how much I learn and how easily I can think in "Christian" now. This video earned a spot on my wall because I knew it would spark thought, and I feel privileged that it's sparked discussion. Probably 90%, maybe more, of my facebook friends are unsaved, most of them would be considered unchurched. Quite an awful lot of them have been burned or deeply wounded by Christians or in churches (I'd still call them unchurched if they haven't attended in years and years). This distinction made between Jesus and what these people call religion is, IMO, so important.

I did say that I do not feel hate is too strong of a word...and I don't. I hate the institutions and organizations that uphold man made (false) doctrines that continue to hurt people, hold them in bondage, and prevent those desperate for God from finding Him. I hate that my family ended up hurt by these rules and doctrines, making it very difficult for me to establish a relationship with the God who was hotly pursuing me. I hate that I hear stories from my friends, my unsaved friends, that mirror my experiences. I hate that their hearts have been wounded by Christianity...and that they equate the hurt with Jesus, and thus reject Him. I hate those kind of lies. I hate hearing their experiences, hearing them blame Christianity, religion, God...and knowing that what they have experienced is not at all who God is. I desperately had to separate Jesus from "Christianity" in order to accept Jesus. This is why I love this video.

[JamDat]

Thank you for the link I'll check it out.

I might have thought this video was good if I had not seen the following one first.

http://youtu.be/jyYFxp7apl4

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by JamDat

Thank you for the link I'll check it out.

I might have thought this video was good if I had not seen the following one first.

http://youtu.be/jyYFxp7apl4

I love this video too! They're not exclusive to each other, by any means. They're going to target different groups, different people, and the same people at different places in their lives. Actually, this video has earned a place on my page..and a tag to the person the other video opened up discussion with. THESE are the things I was saying to him and I hope he'll watch this video too.

[Dedicated Mind]

great poems, both of them