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Old 09-23-2011, 09:03 AM
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You are carrying on the attitude that usually goes with this type of thread. Overly sensitive to questions that probe the issue.
Also, the lesson for you is to not to make assumptions of others because what they are talking hasn't graced your presence. You don't know everything, nor will you ever. For future reference, don't make hasty judgements that are only limited to your experiences and your particular circle.
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Old 09-23-2011, 09:47 AM
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The first thing not to do is make a decison in haste to leave. Although it's obvious you haven't done that, I'm just saying if you ever get to that point, hopefully it was from an attitude of "Well, I'm just sick and tired of it. I'm outta here."

Pray, pray, pray, as I'm sure you are doing. I've seen scenarios play out where some people left for whatever reason only after time to see a big change in leadership (i.e. the pastor resigns and thus a new one is voted in). Because I didn't know all details (and I would probably be wrong to pursue knowing), I've often wondered if those who left would consider coming back. I know. I've been in that same situation of leaving and coming back after several months went by, only to wonder "What if I would have stayed?" But, nevertheless, God is listening to those earnestly seeking Him, so your best bet would be to look at the substance behind the people, not just the people themselves, and pray for God's direction, both for you and your pastor/his wife, etc.
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Old 09-23-2011, 10:36 AM
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The first thing not to do is make a decison in haste to leave. Although it's obvious you haven't done that, I'm just saying if you ever get to that point, hopefully it was from an attitude of "Well, I'm just sick and tired of it. I'm outta here."

Pray, pray, pray, as I'm sure you are doing. I've seen scenarios play out where some people left for whatever reason only after time to see a big change in leadership (i.e. the pastor resigns and thus a new one is voted in). Because I didn't know all details (and I would probably be wrong to pursue knowing), I've often wondered if those who left would consider coming back. I know. I've been in that same situation of leaving and coming back after several months went by, only to wonder "What if I would have stayed?" But, nevertheless, God is listening to those earnestly seeking Him, so your best bet would be to look at the substance behind the people, not just the people themselves, and pray for God's direction, both for you and your pastor/his wife, etc.

Dagwood, you are right. I haven't left. I am very prayerful at this moment. I don't necessarily want to leave for a number of reasons. The first reason is that I don't want to start from scratch in finding a new church. That is a horrible experience. The second thing is, I have to remain stable in my position for the sake of others. The third thing is that God is able to do the work that needs to be done. I can't say what may come but I'm praying that something will come along and the changes will be made. I've seen it happen before and it can happen again.
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Old 09-23-2011, 10:41 AM
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The first thing not to do is make a decison in haste to leave. Although it's obvious you haven't done that, I'm just saying if you ever get to that point, hopefully it was from an attitude of "Well, I'm just sick and tired of it. I'm outta here."

Pray, pray, pray, as I'm sure you are doing. I've seen scenarios play out where some people left for whatever reason only after time to see a big change in leadership (i.e. the pastor resigns and thus a new one is voted in). Because I didn't know all details (and I would probably be wrong to pursue knowing), I've often wondered if those who left would consider coming back. I know. I've been in that same situation of leaving and coming back after several months went by, only to wonder "What if I would have stayed?" But, nevertheless, God is listening to those earnestly seeking Him, so your best bet would be to look at the substance behind the people, not just the people themselves, and pray for God's direction, both for you and your pastor/his wife, etc.
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Dagwood, you are right. I haven't left. I am very prayerful at this moment. I don't necessarily want to leave for a number of reasons. The first reason is that I don't want to start from scratch in finding a new church. That is a horrible experience. The second thing is, I have to remain stable in my position for the sake of others. The third thing is that God is able to do the work that needs to be done. I can't say what may come but I'm praying that something will come along and the changes will be made. I've seen it happen before and it can happen again.
I meant to say "wasn't," not "was..."
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Old 09-23-2011, 10:45 AM
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If the pastor's wife looks like a lady of the night get up and get out.
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Old 09-23-2011, 11:04 AM
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If the pastor's wife looks like a lady of the night get up and get out.
lady of the night?
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Well, I guess warrior has already tried the first 8 plans....... Time for the next!
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Old 09-23-2011, 11:56 AM
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a vampiress? o.O Well I'd prob find a dif church...
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a vampiress? o.O Well I'd prob find a dif church...
but is she wearing hooker shoes?
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