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Old 06-04-2011, 10:47 AM
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Re: Are Infants Really Born Sinless?

We are not in Noah's time, and we are not under the Old Covenant where men are judged by sins in their life or how hard they are trying to be perfect in the sight of Jesus.
We are not under the curse of the law, because Jesus nailed the handwriting of the law that was against us and contrary to us and nailed it to his cross and abolished it forever. Some people need to look up in the old English dictionary the meaning of abolish.

Men are judged today in the sight of Jesus by faith. That is the bible stating.

How then can you judge a baby or even a child by faith if that infant has not even reached a degree of understanding. Right, you can't and neither does Jesus,

Stop being fools it makes Christianity look bad in the sight of the non-believers.

When Jesus went into the holy place in heaven he atoned for all sin one time and forever and then he sat down. That indicates it is a finished work.

Your sins were atoned for before you were ever born. You inherited that atonement by repentance and faith when you believed the gospel of Christ.

And if your one who thinks baptism removed your sins, then did it remove the ones which were past and present, or did it remove all past, present, and future. If it removed past and presents then you need to be dipped every time you sin.

What if a child dies in a flood or in another country and it's parents don't believe, is that child condemned because of the sins of it's parents? I think not, where sin has been paid for there is no condemnation.

The just shall live by faith.
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Old 06-04-2011, 10:50 AM
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We are not in Noah's time, and we are not under the Old Covenant where men are judged by sins in their life or how hard they are trying to be perfect in the sight of Jesus.
We are not under the curse of the law, because Jesus nailed the handwriting of the law that was against us and contrary to us and nailed it to his cross and abolished it forever. Some people need to look up in the old English dictionary the meaning of abolish.

Men are judged today in the sight of Jesus by faith. That is the bible stating.

How then can you judge a baby or even a child by faith if that infant has not even reached a degree of understanding. Right, you can't and neither does Jesus,

Stop being fools it makes Christianity look bad in the sight of the non-believers.

When Jesus went into the holy place in heaven he atoned for all sin one time and forever and then he sat down. That indicates it is a finished work.

Your sins were atoned for before you were ever born. You inherited that atonement by repentance and faith when you believed the gospel of Christ.

And if your one who thinks baptism removed your sins, then did it remove the ones which were past and present, or did it remove all past, present, and future. If it removed past and presents then you need to be dipped every time you sin.

What if a child dies in a flood or in another country and it's parents don't believe, is that child condemned because of the sins of it's parents? I think not, where sin has been paid for there is no condemnation.

The just shall live by faith.
I see all opinion and no biblical scripture to defend your stance. Try answering the questions I asked Acerake and Praxeas, I would like to see you do so.
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Old 06-04-2011, 11:07 AM
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Re: Are Infants Really Born Sinless?

So than does a baby need to obey Acts 2:38?


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Old 06-04-2011, 11:11 AM
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So than does a baby need to obey Acts 2:38?


Presumably, it's not possible. But that may be why it's so sad when a baby dies, and why it's not good to kill a baby.
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All humanity must obey Acts 2:38.
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Old 06-04-2011, 11:15 AM
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Is a baby righteous or unrighteous? Please answer with scripture.
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Old 06-04-2011, 11:28 AM
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I see all opinion and no biblical scripture to defend your stance. Try answering the questions I asked Acerake and Praxeas, I would like to see you do so.
How's this for a starter;
Romans 9; 11, For the children not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God, according to election, might stand, not of works, but of him{ Jesus} that calleth.

In plain english, those whom Jesus justified before the foundation of the world began.
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Old 06-04-2011, 11:30 AM
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Is a baby righteous or unrighteous? Please answer with scripture.
I don't know.
I asked if a baby has to obey Acts 2:38, by you're answer I'm guessing that you mean yes.
So now I'm asking you, when? As soon as were born?

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Old 06-04-2011, 11:31 AM
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Is a baby righteous or unrighteous? Please answer with scripture.
He could pick a scripture for either answer. Anyone could. Here, let me try.

1. Righteous. "And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 18:3. "The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him." Ezekiel 18:20.

2. Unrighteous. "Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me." Psalm 51:5. "The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies." Psalm 58:3. "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" Romans 3:23. "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one." Romans 3:10.

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How's this for a starter;
Romans 9; 11, For the children not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God, according to election, might stand, not of works, but of him{ Jesus} that calleth.

In plain english, those whom Jesus justified before the foundation of the world began.
Why are you avoiding my questions to Acerrak and Praxeas? I will answer any questions you have after you answer mine. Thanks.

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