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[Jermyn Davidson]

my dose of (if I can borrow someone else's term) Apostolica.

It is with real sadness that I admit that I have not attended my Apostolic church in over a month now.


I don't know how to bring myself to bid my Pastor good bye.

I want to, I really, really want to. But I love the man and his wife, and my old church. I miss them dearly. I miss our services and going to the prayer room there sorely. It bothers me that the church I attend does not have an official prayer room with a times designated throughout the week for prayer . It bothers me that my church thinks clapping their hands with a few seconds of scattered, "Hallelu-Jah's" are worship. My word, do I miss my church!


I tried a few months back, to tell my Pastor good-bye, but he convinced me that it was not the best decision and that I may be under some kind of attack. Together, we were convinced that there was room for our diversity, as long as we still believed that the three things are a part of the saved life.

Even if he believes that way, it's not what the UPCI stands for. It just isn't and I know it.

I am not about to bad mouth the UPCI or my former Pastor.


I respectfully disagree with him and the stance of the organization he represents.

Since that is the case, I've changed my place of fellowship.


This has been a very difficult time for me, sincerely.

[scotty]

what stance exactly is it you disagree with ?

[onefaith2]

Where are you going?

[The Mrs]

I wish you well on your journey Jermyn. It's not an easy road. Keep your eyes and heart on God.

[aegsm76]

JD - from my experience, I believe you are headed the wrong way. But, we all have to work out our salvation with fear and trembling.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

my dose of (if I can borrow someone else's term) Apostolica.

It is with real sadness that I admit that I have not attended my Apostolic church in over a month now.


I don't know how to bring myself to bid my Pastor good bye.

I want to, I really, really want to. But I love the man and his wife, and my old church. I miss them dearly. I miss our services and going to the prayer room there sorely. It bothers me that the church I attend does not have an official prayer room with a times designated throughout the week for prayer . It bothers me that my church thinks clapping their hands with a few seconds of scattered, "Hallelu-Jah's" are worship. My word, do I miss my church!


I tried a few months back, to tell my Pastor good-bye, but he convinced me that it was not the best decision and that I may be under some kind of attack. Together, we were convinced that there was room for our diversity, as long as we still believed that the three things are a part of the saved life.

Even if he believes that way, it's not what the UPCI stands for. It just isn't and I know it.

I am not about to bad mouth the UPCI or my former Pastor.


I respectfully disagree with him and the stance of the organization he represents.

Since that is the case, I've changed my place of fellowship.


This has been a very difficult time for me, sincerely.

At some point in each of our lives we must make decisions based on what we know, instead of what we believe. What we know comes from the heart what we believe often is just what we have be told by others and by tradition.

Scripture is foundational for the believer, but must be recieved with the heart.

John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

JD, may you find all the paths that HE has set before you.

[Aleks Fife]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

my dose of (if I can borrow someone else's term) Apostolica.

It is with real sadness that I admit that I have not attended my Apostolic church in over a month now.


I don't know how to bring myself to bid my Pastor good bye.

I want to, I really, really want to. But I love the man and his wife, and my old church. I miss them dearly. I miss our services and going to the prayer room there sorely. It bothers me that the church I attend does not have an official prayer room with a times designated throughout the week for prayer . It bothers me that my church thinks clapping their hands with a few seconds of scattered, "Hallelu-Jah's" are worship. My word, do I miss my church!


I tried a few months back, to tell my Pastor good-bye, but he convinced me that it was not the best decision and that I may be under some kind of attack. Together, we were convinced that there was room for our diversity, as long as we still believed that the three things are a part of the saved life.

Even if he believes that way, it's not what the UPCI stands for. It just isn't and I know it.

I am not about to bad mouth the UPCI or my former Pastor.


I respectfully disagree with him and the stance of the organization he represents.

Since that is the case, I've changed my place of fellowship.


This has been a very difficult time for me, sincerely.

I would tell you to quit trying so hard to please your pastor and to be fearful of him, but I may agree with your pastor (that you shouldn't make a decision when you have questions).

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Aleks Fife

I would tell you to quit trying so hard to please your pastor and to be fearful of him, but I may agree with your pastor (that you shouldn't make a decision when you have questions).

"Fearful of him..." ??? C'mon.

You're probably just like everyone else - you pick and choose the "pastors" that you're "fearful" of. This isn't a very "fearful" methodology for subitting oneself to "God's anointed" if that is your goal.

JD's pastor (former pastor?) happens to be one of the good guys, or at least one of the better guys in the org. I seriously doubt if even he goes around demanding "fear" from his parishioners. I have family at that church and I know that they don't "fear" the pastor nor have they ever been asked to. They don't even particularly agree with all of the the "standards" or the Three Step but they still like and respect the pastor because he's a likable and respectable guy.

The "fear the pastor" days are coming to an end - hopefully. Such cult like mentalities are not helpful to developing mature qualities in saints and they sure don't do the pastor any good in the long run.

[Aleks Fife]

Originally Posted by pelathais

"Fearful of him..." ??? C'mon.

You're probably just like everyone else - you pick and choose the "pastors" that you're "fearful" of. This isn't a very "fearful" methodology for subitting oneself to "God's anointed" if that is your goal.

JD's pastor (former pastor?) happens to be one of the good guys, or at least one of the better guys in the org. I seriously doubt if even he goes around demanding "fear" from his parishioners. I have family at that church and I know that they don't "fear" the pastor nor have they ever been asked to. They don't even particularly agree with all of the the "standards" or the Three Step but they still like and respect the pastor because he's a likable and respectable guy.

The "fear the pastor" days are coming to an end - hopefully. Such cult like mentalities are not helpful to developing mature qualities in saints and they sure don't do the pastor any good in the long run.

Fear can be self-imposed, and if often connected to desiring the approval of others.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Aleks Fife

Fear can be self-imposed, and if often connected to desiring the approval of others.

Yes. But II Kings 2:23-24, gives us the only condition for which we should "fear" a pastor... if he's bald!



Where's Charnock to give me an "Amen!"