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04-14-2011, 02:08 PM
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Eph 1:13-14 and OSNAS
Eph 1:13-14
13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
How does the above verse factor into OSAS and OSNAS? In other words, can someone who has been sealed by God become unsealed?
Opinions/thoughts/answers...
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04-14-2011, 04:01 PM
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Re: Eph 1:13-14 and OSNAS
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04-14-2011, 04:20 PM
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Re: Eph 1:13-14 and OSNAS
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04-14-2011, 04:23 PM
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Re: Eph 1:13-14 and OSNAS
What God gives, let no MAN take away. God does not unseal, mans actions do.
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04-14-2011, 04:30 PM
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Re: Eph 1:13-14 and OSNAS
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osnas?
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Once Saved Not Always Saved
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Re: Eph 1:13-14 and OSNAS
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What God gives, let no MAN take away. God does not unseal, mans actions do.
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Thanks. If you could provide some scriptures too, that'd be helpful...
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04-14-2011, 04:57 PM
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Re: Eph 1:13-14 and OSNAS
The SEAL of the Holy Ghost is simply an authentication. It has nothing to do with "unsealing" as though something can be undone. A seal in this instance is a validation, and nothing more. So it is apples and oranges to whether or not someone can lose salvation. Losing salvation or not does not enter into this picture.
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04-14-2011, 05:48 PM
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Re: Eph 1:13-14 and OSNAS
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The SEAL of the Holy Ghost is simply an authentication. It has nothing to do with "unsealing" as though something can be undone. A seal in this instance is a validation, and nothing more. So it is apples and oranges to whether or not someone can lose salvation. Losing salvation or not does not enter into this picture.
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ok thanks
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04-14-2011, 08:55 PM
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Re: Eph 1:13-14 and OSNAS
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Originally Posted by mfblume
The SEAL of the Holy Ghost is simply an authentication. It has nothing to do with "unsealing" as though something can be undone. A seal in this instance is a validation, and nothing more. So it is apples and oranges to whether or not someone can lose salvation. Losing salvation or not does not enter into this picture.
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sealing can also designate ownership and can designate preservation.
not getting into the eternal security question here,
I have problems with both sides of that issue.
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04-14-2011, 09:18 PM
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Re: Eph 1:13-14 and OSNAS
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Originally Posted by Sam
sealing can also designate ownership and can designate preservation.
not getting into the eternal security question here,
I have problems with both sides of that issue.
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But in the context of the passage in question, I believe authentication is the issue.
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