Hell In Question

[Revelationist]

Originally Posted by mfblume

The rich man and Lazarus story is not a myth. There is a hell as described. Jesus would not use myths to promote a concept. the point in the story is not that there is a hell, but it was about pharisees and seeking esteem of men rather than God. But Jesus would not use a lie to promote a truth.

He didn't use myths, but he did use imagery...

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Revelationist

He didn't use myths, but he did use imagery...

Where else in a parable did Jesus use non-existent imagery? I see the sower and the seed, a fisherman and this. There may be another to validate the use of imagery in parables, but I honestly cannot think of one. I would think that if this was a VISION, then it may be imagery.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I believe the picture has changed since the cross. Abraham's bosom is no longer in Hades but has been lifted to glory since the cross. I believe this occurred when Jesus resurrected. That is why we read of saints being seen risen in Jerusalem. So communication is not the case now, for sure. But before that? Who knows?

Talk about something not explicitly in the scriptures, Mike you sure take license.

Abraham's bosom in Hades????

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by corvet786c

In a nut shell can you explain again what the word says about hell. Was the rich man and lazarus a myth? Are sinners really doomed after they die? etc etc

I posted a link earlier in this thread to an article about Hell, you can review that if you like. Hell is the grave, the place of the unseen, Ghenna, Sheol, Hades, none of which is a fiery torture chamber.

No, Lazarus and the rich man was a parable, describing the condition of the Jews and the Gentiles, and the coming destruction of the Jewish nation.

Sinners are destined to judgment and corrective "hell" which in the original languages refers to the pruning of trees.

[Jimmyjay]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

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[Jimmyjay]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

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[mfblume]

Originally Posted by crakjak

Talk about something not explicitly in the scriptures, Mike you sure take license.

Abraham's bosom in Hades????

No license about it. Hades/Sheol was where all the dead went before the cross. Read David.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Well, if the parable isn't a lie, then, you know!

Good point.