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[coadie]

A woman buys a lot and plants a little garden to save money on veggies and deliver econimical fresh produce.

Gubment wants to shut her ddown unless she pays thousands to get permitshttp://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/04/01/MNE81INHVU.DTL
In Minnesota they shut down church kitchen and deliver a set of commercial kitchen rules to cleart before cooking free food.

http://www.foodrenegade.com/do-you-e...l-baked-goods/

Imagine a world where the police harass an 88 year old woman for bringing homemade coconut cream pies to a church Fish Fry, a 73 year old woman for bringing raisin pies, and a 69 year old woman for bringing pumpkin pies.

Oh wait! You don’t have to imagine it. That’s the world we live in.


Earlier this week, the Wall Street Journal ran a story on the now famous Pennsylvania Pie Fight, dubbed “piegate” by some.

And of course we spend billions subsidizing corn ethanol which has trippled the price of corn and corn tortillas even in mexico.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by coadie

A woman buys a lot and plants a little garden to save money on veggies and deliver econimical fresh produce.

Gubment wants to shut her ddown unless she pays thousands to get permitshttp://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/04/01/MNE81INHVU.DTL
In Minnesota they shut down church kitchen and deliver a set of commercial kitchen rules to cleart before cooking free food.

http://www.foodrenegade.com/do-you-e...l-baked-goods/

Imagine a world where the police harass an 88 year old woman for bringing homemade coconut cream pies to a church Fish Fry, a 73 year old woman for bringing raisin pies, and a 69 year old woman for bringing pumpkin pies.

Oh wait! You don’t have to imagine it. That’s the world we live in.


Earlier this week, the Wall Street Journal ran a story on the now famous Pennsylvania Pie Fight, dubbed “piegate” by some.

And of course we spend billions subsidizing corn ethanol which has trippled the price of corn and corn tortillas even in mexico.

The woman in the SF Gate article was not "poor" or "disenfranchised." Neither is this a "liberal aggression" example. It's a law, and one that Republicans side with on Federal and State levels (FDA, etc). Because the City has rules regarding people selling food for profit doesn't mean they are attacking this woman.

I disagree with Oakland's ruling here (pro-urban farming) because of the size of her land. This is small potatoes. But rules are rules until they are changed.

In San Francisco, where similar conflicts have arisen, Supervisor David Chiu and Mayor Ed Lee introduced legislation this week to allow growing and selling of garden produce in all neighborhoods. In Oakland, zoning officials and nonprofits have been working on new rules, which are to be debated by the City Council this year.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...#ixzz1IIfFUiyo

Stick with the facts.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Socialite

The woman in the SF Gate article was not "poor" or "disenfranchised." Neither is this a "liberal aggression" example. It's a law, and one that Republicans side with on Federal and State levels (FDA, etc). Because the City has rules regarding people selling food for profit doesn't mean they are attacking this woman.

I disagree with Oakland's ruling here (pro-urban farming) because of the size of her land. This is small potatoes. But rules are rules until they are changed.



Stick with the facts.

You missed the point on the lady in SF. SHe is a source of cheap food for poor people and people that want to save on food spending.

"Rules are rules" is the game that hinders economic market flow of money for food.



I know you don't like numbers but let's try. She has a vacant lot. The want to charge her several thousand for permits. That increase her cost of fresh produce production
She would have to buy equipment to pocess transactions or she can't accept food stanps. Food stamps are issued by THE USDA and run only thru certain merchants. That means thos merchants have shipping costs, union wages and a long list of expenses built nto food costs whech make poor people have their food stamp dollar not reach as far. It costs billions to do the food stamp program much of which is NOT food costs.

USDA spends 85 billion on food stamps
They spend 10 billion on farm subsidies which is down from 12 billion
Libs like yourself don't understand what farm subsidies are for.
They will spend 1 billion on food inspections which this lady doesn't have her food inspected. Saves gubment money
Then there is the CCC which is involved in ag lending, export sale lending subsidies for exports and a whole lot of other transactions. .including paying me to not plant rye.

Obama signed an ugly monster food safety bill which will drive out small farmers , local produce, small organics and others and protect the monster farms.

The gubment wants to decide who grows our food, what we eat and who sells it. All the gubment involvement will cost billions more per month and quality of food will go down.

[coadie]

The liberals want to be the ones dealing with the poor and remove the charities.

Big Gubment wants control

President Obama hopes to limit the charitable deduction for the top income bracket. That is, wealthy donors who itemize would not be able to deduct as much from their income to owe less in taxes. Charities — which are already hurting from the economic downturn — are worried this will discourage potential donors.

From the extreme liberal NPR site.

Gubment knows better who is worthy of welfare.

Big Gubment lies

"

The logic behind it," explains Burman, "is: 'Why should millionaires get a much bigger subsidy on their charitable contributions than people with modest incomes?' "

The selfish left thinks it is all gubment's money and a tax deduction is a "subsidy"

http://www.npr.org/2011/02/17/133810...art-nonprofits

Big Gubment thinks they do people a favor "letting them" get a tax deduction. People give because they want to give to the needy. The Gubment wants to put it in the hand of the poor so the poor think the gubment is the sugar daddy.

[Socialite]

I thank God for the Federal Food & Drug Administration.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Socialite

I thank God for the Federal Food & Drug Administration.

Were they sent by God?
Annointed and ordained?