Should Today's Evangelist be CELIBATE ... - Page 2

DAII · #11 02-18-2011, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by digging4truth

this also operates under today's definition of evangelist which is "basically" a traveling preacher.

An evangelist is an evangel... A herald. That could have well meant, and probably did mean, someone who was more gifted in the area of spreading the word on a local basis and didn't of necessity mean someone who traveled from place to place evangelizing.

Our modern model creates issues that didn't exist in the true design used by the early church.

a hearty amen

Digging4Truth · #12 02-18-2011, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DAII

Here is a confused Apostolic evangelist who believes Acts 2:38 is the Gospel ...

Your thoughts on his remarks at about the minute mark regarding priorities in his message entitled "The Profitable Gospel" ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nii0p5BqCyE

His time away from his family is due to the decision to pursue this as a full time income. With, of course, hopes of having a church pastorate as a full time income later on. At which time he will, in all probability, have to completely uproot his entire family and move them to another location.

If the message is the one people have to hear. Great.

But they can hear it from others. He isn't the only messenger.

The message of God's word and His love is important. But the way it affects his time with his family was a career choice.

MissBrattified · #13 02-18-2011, 10:42 AM

IMO, it's easier for an evangelist to be single, but if he IS married, his wife should travel with him.

Better for the family to travel together and suffer that inconvenience together than to spend weeks apart.

DAII · #14 02-18-2011, 10:45 AM

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IMO, it's easier for an evangelist to be single, but if he IS married, his wife should travel with him.

Better for the family to travel together and suffer that inconvenience together than to spend weeks apart.

That said ... this was probably more feasible fifty years ago ... today's economic realities ... traveling further distances ... some of them staying 2-3 months in one location ...

Not sure it's possible.

Don't get me wrong ... I do think an evangelist should stay in a location for extended amounts of time ... not preaching in Dallas on Wed, BOTT on Thursday, preaching a revival that weekend through Sunday morning... in Akron and preaching Sunday night in New York ...

Some evangelists imo ... are nothing more than spiritualized motivational speakers on a preaching circuit.

aegsm76 · #15 02-18-2011, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DAII

Here is a confused Apostolic evangelist who believes Acts 2:38 is the Gospel ...

Your thoughts on his remarks at about the minute mark regarding priorities in his message entitled "The Profitable Gospel" ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nii0p5BqCyE

DA - what is the gospel?

aegsm76 · #16 02-18-2011, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

His time away from his family is due to the decision to pursue this as a full time income. With, of course, hopes of having a church pastorate as a full time income later on. At which time he will, in all probability, have to completely uproot his entire family and move them to another location.

If the message is the one people have to hear. Great.

But they can hear it from others. He isn't the only messenger.

The message of God's word and His love is important. But the way it affects his time with his family was a career choice.

D4T - if your remarks are directed at GG, he has had numerous opportunities to take churches and has not.
Because he believes this is what God has called him for at this time.

Digging4Truth · #17 02-18-2011, 05:16 PM

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D4T - if your remarks are directed at GG, he has had numerous opportunities to take churches and has not.
Because he believes this is what God has called him for at this time.

I don't know GG. Never heard of him as far as I know.

But these decisions are made under a paradigm that sees ministry as a full time profession. One which I am sure most here agree with vehemently. But the paradigm has it's prices.

And... your comments, to a certain extent, confirm my post. These are choices he has made with, apparently, other options available. What has or has not been available as options are parameters. But the choices made are still his own.

And... my comments are not specific to this gentleman. My comments are on the concept. The person in the video making the statement was not of my choosing and, like I said, I have no knowledge of the person at all.

I don't think the "evangelist" concept we live under is the one the early church labored under. I don't think there were people whose family income was derived from people traveling from place to place "preaching" at this church or that church.

Again... in a nutshell... my point is that we have created the paradigm we all operate under. The paradigm has it's costs. But the decisions are still ours to make and the costs thereof are ours and our family's to bear.

DAII · #18 02-18-2011, 05:45 PM

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DA - what is the gospel?

A basic, fundamental of our faith.

The apostolic writer describes it as follows:

Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain.
3 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,

Did you want to add to it? Did you have different derscription of a different gospel?
If so, let it be anathema.

Jesus, and His work unto salvation, is the GOOD NEWS.