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Old 02-15-2013, 10:04 AM
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Wheels Coming Off Obamacare

Article from NY Post:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion...MCt-HS4.mailto
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:28 PM
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Re: Wheels Coming Off Obamacare

healthcare reform is a work in progress. after dems take the house in 2014 look for the single payer government option to greatly reduce costs. what plans do rebublicans have to reduce costs?
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Old 02-15-2013, 03:49 PM
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Re: Wheels Coming Off Obamacare

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/02/0...s-5-7-billion/

No one responded to this when I made a thread about it. Typical. If you can be critical you should be able to praise.
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Old 02-15-2013, 04:35 PM
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Re: Wheels Coming Off Obamacare

my state refuses to offer me anything.
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Old 02-15-2013, 07:56 PM
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Re: Wheels Coming Off Obamacare

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healthcare reform is a work in progress. after dems take the house in 2014 look for the single payer government option to greatly reduce costs. what plans do rebublicans have to reduce costs?
Single payer does not reduce costs, it only hides them. The tax payer still pays for it through taxes or deficit spending.

Here is a better way,,,,

IN PROGRESS: On January 20, 2011, the House passed H. Res. 9, a resolution instructing House committees to develop legislation replacing the job-killing health care law. Committees are currently doing their work to hold hearings and examine solutions to lower costs, increase access to quality care, and strengthen the doctor-patient relationship.

Enact Medical Liability Reform

Skyrocketing medical liability insurance rates have distorted the practice of medicine, routinely forcing doctors to order costly and often unnecessary tests to protect themselves from lawsuits, often referred to as "defensive medicine." We will enact common-sense medical liability reforms to lower costs, rein in junk lawsuits and curb defensive medicine.

Purchase Health Insurance across State Lines

Americans residing in a state with expensive health insurance plans are locked into those plans and do not currently have an opportunity to choose a lower cost option that best meets their needs. We will allow individuals to buy health care coverage outside of the state in which they live.

Expand Health Savings Accounts

Health Savings Accounts (HSAs) are popular savings accounts that provide costeffective health insurance to those who might otherwise go uninsured. We will improve HSAs by making it easier for patients with high-deductible health plans to use them to obtain access to quality care. We will repeal the new health care law, which prevents the use of these savings accounts to purchase over-the-counter medicine.

Ensure Access for Patients with Pre-Existing Conditions

Health care should be accessible for all, regardless of pre-existing conditions or past illnesses. We will expand state high-risk pools, reinsurance programs and reduce the cost of coverage. We will make it illegal for an insurance company to deny coverage to someone with prior coverage on the basis of a pre-existing condition, eliminate annual and lifetime spending caps, and prevent insurers from dropping your coverage just because you get sick. We will incentivize states to develop innovative programs that lower premiums and reduce the number of uninsured Americans.

Permanently Prohibit Taxpayer Funding of Abortion


We will establish a government-wide prohibition on taxpayer funding of abortion and subsidies for insurance coverage that includes abortion. This prohibition would go further and enact into law what is known as the Hyde Amendment as well as ban other instances of federal subsidies for abortion services. We will also enact into law conscience protections for health care providers, including doctors, nurses, and hospitals.
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Old 02-15-2013, 10:48 PM
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Re: Wheels Coming Off Obamacare

Well...the simple fact that this law comes out of the Senate, passed into law by both houses, and declared "constitutional" by the Supreme Court because Congress has the power to enact taxes....we should have a problem with this.

The problem is that if this obamacare is considered to be a tax, as declared by the Supreme Court Justices, then Congress must scrap the entire bill because it originated in the Senate.

All tax appropriation bills must originate in the House of Representatives.

Scrap it. Let's have a real debate with all of the entire 535 elected critters, not just 100 of them and let them keep the citizens informed as outlined by our Constitution.
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Old 02-17-2013, 06:07 PM
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Re: Wheels Coming Off Obamacare

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Well...the simple fact that this law comes out of the Senate, passed into law by both houses, and declared "constitutional" by the Supreme Court because Congress has the power to enact taxes....we should have a problem with this.

The problem is that if this obamacare is considered to be a tax, as declared by the Supreme Court Justices, then Congress must scrap the entire bill because it originated in the Senate.

All tax appropriation bills must originate in the House of Representatives.

Scrap it. Let's have a real debate with all of the entire 535 elected critters, not just 100 of them and let them keep the citizens informed as outlined by our Constitution.
Let's hope
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