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03-21-2011, 10:34 PM
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Libya, Yemen, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Kuwait...
Should America serve a police/humanitarian role in the world?
Our policy of getting involved is rarely consistent, and our support of dictator regimes in the past is an other obvious inconsistency.
Some also argue, the more we fester and meddle, the more problems we heap back on ourselves. Others would say our non-intervention in the past could have prevented World Wars.
Many Republicans seem very big on intervention (surprisingly). Some Dems are too. Others are more cautious, either looking to addressing these situations as an international community or remaining more noninterventionist in general.
There's always a reason to get involved. When should we? When shouldn't we? How much should we? Should we really be trying to remove Gadafi? Is he a threat to the United States? Is military intervention without a threat to our own people, borders and land even Constitutional?
With the Middle East and Africa becoming increasingly unsettled, what should our role be?
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03-21-2011, 10:50 PM
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Re: Libya, Yemen, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Kuwait...
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Originally Posted by Socialite
Should America serve a police/humanitarian role in the world?
Our policy of getting involved is rarely consistent, and our support of dictator regimes in the past is an other obvious inconsistency.
Some also argue, the more we fester and meddle, the more problems we heap back on ourselves. Others would say our non-intervention in the past could have prevented World Wars.
Many Republicans seem very big on intervention (surprisingly). Some Dems are too. Others are more cautious, either looking to addressing these situations as an international community or remaining more noninterventionist in general.
There's always a reason to get involved. When should we? When shouldn't we? How much should we? Should we really be trying to remove Gadafi? Is he a threat to the United States? Is military intervention without a threat to our own people, borders and land even Constitutional?
With the Middle East and Africa becoming increasingly unsettled, what should our role be?
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It is a tough call, there is so much corruption in the world, the UN, how can we be assured that what comes afterward will be and improvement? But these abusive dictators really need to go.
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03-21-2011, 10:50 PM
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Re: Libya, Yemen, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Kuwait...
It's all working toward what we have been waiting for, international arrangement which is positioning it's self for the peace in the old Persian/Roman empire. We are seeing what a lot of people thought they saw a long time ago but didn't. The reasoning is we now have international government involvement in these countries where as before our time that was not the case. So with this involvement there is more support for a peace agreement with Israel now then ever before. But beware when this happens for they will say atlas peace and safety but then destruction will come greater than in all history.
I wish we were not involved at all but, the US plays one of the biggest parts in this world order called the united nations.
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03-21-2011, 10:55 PM
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Re: Libya, Yemen, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Kuwait...
NO!!! STAY OUT!!!
We, as a nation have no buisness in their affairs except in some very narrow instances.
We have just invaded and attacked a soveriegn nation that was not threatening us, and WITHOUT prior consent, consultation or approval of our represtatives that we sent up to D.C. to prevent dictatorial actions, such as this.
Incredible!! Folks, this is NOT America, but an occupying power in our Government, totally contrary to what our nation is built upon.
We need to wake up, before it is too late, and it is getting close.
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03-21-2011, 11:03 PM
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Re: Libya, Yemen, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Kuwait...
I'm split on this. While it may appear we need to get in there and show what we've got (which, anymore, doesn't seem like much), I'm almost as inclined to say we should have stayed out.
IMO, if the world wants to see how democracy works (and I'm saying that losely, not that America itself has it all together), let them come here and see for themselves instead of us gettin' all up in their grill in their territory.
Most importantly, God's got the final say in all of what's going on. Not saying that to excuse myself as intentionally ignoring the situation. But, God's hand is in it for sure...it's just a matter of time.
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03-21-2011, 11:04 PM
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Re: Libya, Yemen, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Kuwait...
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It is a tough call, there is so much corruption in the world, the UN, how can we be assured that what comes afterward will be and improvement? But these abusive dictators really need to go.
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There's more of these guys than we can take down. Unless they pose an imminent threat, putting our nose in foreign business has proven to cause us more of a future headache than anything. They aren't our dictators.
We are now in 3 or 4 Arab countries.... and counting... and it's not like these are friends of America.
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03-21-2011, 11:05 PM
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Re: Libya, Yemen, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Kuwait...
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Originally Posted by Bowas
NO!!! STAY OUT!!!
We, as a nation have no buisness in their affairs except in some very narrow instances.
We have just invaded and attacked a soveriegn nation that was not threatening us, and WITHOUT prior consent, consultation or approval of our represtatives that we sent up to D.C. to prevent dictatorial actions, such as this.
Incredible!! Folks, this is NOT America, but an occupying power in our Government, totally contrary to what our nation is built upon.
We need to wake up, before it is too late, and it is getting close.
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"But it's not war..."
If this isn't war ($100M in artillery and fiery steel rained down from the sky over a sovereign nation), then Pearl Harbor wasn't an act of War.
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03-21-2011, 11:06 PM
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Re: Libya, Yemen, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Kuwait...
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Originally Posted by Socialite
There's more of these guys than we can take down. Unless they pose an imminent threat, putting our nose in foreign business has proven to cause us more of a future headache than anything. They aren't our dictators.
We are now in 3 or 4 Arab countries.... and counting... and it's not like these are friends of America.
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03-21-2011, 11:07 PM
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Re: Libya, Yemen, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Kuwait...
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Originally Posted by Austin
It's all working toward what we have been waiting for, international arrangement which is positioning it's self for the peace in the old Persian/Roman empire. We are seeing what a lot of people thought they saw a long time ago but didn't. The reasoning is we now have international government involvement in these countries where as before our time that was not the case. So with this involvement there is more support for a peace agreement with Israel now then ever before. But beware when this happens for they will say atlas peace and safety but then destruction will come greater than in all history.
I wish we were not involved at all but, the US plays one of the biggest parts in this world order called the united nations.
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Irvin Baxter has checked in
So, because we are a Super Power we should entangle ourselves in foreign countries, and continue to stretch ourselves in nation building?
We should AT LEAST have an interest... is this worth risking an American life?
Legally, I'm not sure this is even legal.
In this case, at least, Obama is following the footsteps of W, with a little more cautiousness... but same result.
Last edited by Socialite; 03-21-2011 at 11:10 PM.
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03-21-2011, 11:09 PM
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Re: Libya, Yemen, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Kuwait...
"No Fly Zone" is a joke. We are doing MUCH MORE than a No Fly Zone.
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