SKorean Navy Ship Sunk by N. Koreans?

[DAII]

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) - Military officials say a South Korean navy ship has sunk off an island not far from North Korea.
An official with the Joint Chiefs of Staff in Seoul said early Saturday that the ship sank some four hours after it began taking on water. The official spoke on condition of anonymity, in line with department policy.

The official said at least 58 of the 104 crew members have been rescued. There was no immediate confirmation of casualties. A rescue operation was still under way.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

[dizzyde]

Originally Posted by DAII

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) - Military officials say a South Korean navy ship has sunk off an island not far from North Korea.
An official with the Joint Chiefs of Staff in Seoul said early Saturday that the ship sank some four hours after it began taking on water. The official spoke on condition of anonymity, in line with department policy.

The official said at least 58 of the 104 crew members have been rescued. There was no immediate confirmation of casualties. A rescue operation was still under way.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

This doesn't surprise, North Korea scares me to death. I read this story yesterday, horrifying that this type of government is operating with ready access to nuclear and chemical weapons.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheat-s...Lq1LFB8GnQH8n&

[Michael The Disciple]

Perhaps the times are a changin?

[Michael The Disciple]

The USA fought a war against N. Korea and China 1950-1953. It ended in a draw. My thinking is we are less prepared than we were then and they are more prepared.

[Praxeas]

I don't think China would support North Korea this time

[Ron]

Don't believe everything you read, remember Gulf of Tonkin?

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2261

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I don't think China would support North Korea this time

I believe two hard line Communist nations would unite quickly. China declared war on us in 1950 because we got to close to their territory in combat operations. At least thats what they said then.

[CC1]

I have read that the S Koreans are privately saying they don't think it was N. Korea. More likely some kind of accident. I sure hope so! That would be a huge provocation if N. Korea did do it.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Perhaps the times are a changin?

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

The USA fought a war against N. Korea and China 1950-1953. It ended in a draw. My thinking is we are less prepared than we were then and they are more prepared.

We weren't prepared at all back then. Entire rifle companies were sent to confront the N. Korean invasion and were lost - mowed down due to the fact that they were facing off with Communist tanks and artillery with just their M1 carbines.

When the territory was retaken later, the roads were found lined in places with the bodies of American soldiers who had obviously been taken prisoner. Their arms were tied behind their backs with barbed wire and they were all either shot in the head or bludgeoned to death to save the bullet.

When MacArthur executed the Inchon landing and took Seoul he outflanked the entire N. Korean army and sent them running back to the north. American forces drove them all the way across the Yalu River and into China and were ready to start mopping up. Then, one million Chinese "volunteers" crossed the border and drove the beleaguered Americans back to appropriately the exact line that exists today.

We weren't ready then. Not even close. We were lucky to have MacArthur and his amphibious skill to turn the tide. Then we had to fire him of course because he wanted to nuke the Chinese "volunteers" in order to save American lives.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Ron

Don't believe everything you read, remember Gulf of Tonkin?

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2261

Are you suggesting that the U.S. manufactured this incident just to give Obama justification for going to war against N. Korea?

Fact of the matter is: the North has launched raids and attacks against U.S. and S. Korean forces ever since 1950. Remember the Pueblo incident? Remember the unarmed Americans who were hacked to death by ax wielding North Korean soldiers?

Did the U.S. "manufacture" the N. Korean downing of a South Korean airliner in 1987?

Did the U.S. "manufacture" the N. Korean assassination attempt on President Park which left him wounded and his wife dead?

What about the N. Korean raid in Burma that left 4 S. Korean cabinet secretaries dead along with a number of other people?

I suppose Clinton faked North Korea's nuclear tests and all of the missile launches that over flew Japan and S. Korea? And the kidnappings of S. Koreans from Japan and other parts of the world?

You have to understand, FAIR (your link) is a far left advocacy group within the American political spectrum. The Gulf of Tonkin incident was controversial at the time and has remained so. However, Communist aggression against America and Allied nations during the Cold War was real. There was a real war going on and plenty of harm was done by all parties and even by those who were ostensibly "non-aligned."