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12-21-2008, 07:59 PM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!
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Originally Posted by nahkoe
I don't believe in running scared either. Neither do I believe in standing on a bed of hot coals and expecting God to prevent my feet from being burned and blistered.
The more I get to know God, and what He desires, the more it takes my breath away when I look around and realize what's happening all around me. People who desperately love God and pursue relationship with Him, and desire more of Him engage in things that are so opposite of His desires.
I really don't care what you do as far as celebrating Christmas, I've said that over and over and over again. You'll answer to God, and He's a just and merciful, gracious, compassionate and loving God.
Editing to add one more thought. It may be possible to truly use Christmas day to honor God without tying any of the pagan influence into it. I would love to hear about that to be honest, because the influence is so very strong and woven into the culture we live in.
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I can see many European cultural influences in our cultural traditions, but nothing we do is "pagan". No pagan gods are invoked, no rituals with muttering the names of pagan deities, no blood sacrifices, etc. It's all be reduced to seasonal decorations. By the way, I'm European and I'm proud of my European cultural heritage.
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12-21-2008, 08:18 PM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!
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I can see many European cultural influences in our cultural traditions, but nothing we do is "pagan". No pagan gods are invoked, no rituals with muttering the names of pagan deities, no blood sacrifices, etc. It's all be reduced to seasonal decorations. By the way, I'm European and I'm proud of my European cultural heritage.
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Thank you for this post. You know how when you're walking along a path with the same trees, the same rocks, the same ruts you don't notice progress made until you look back? You just caused me to realize something, I definitely needed this tonight. Thank you!
As for the actual content of the post, we serve a gracious, loving, merciful God.  Be blessed and may you know Him more with each breath you take.
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12-21-2008, 10:15 PM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!
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In my opinion there's a difference between celebrating Christmas as, "Christ's Birth Day", and choosing Christmas as a day to honor Christ's birth. Choosing to replace an ancient Pagan celebration is quite fitting. It's like razing an ancient pagan temple and building a Church over it's ruins.
I believe in taking DOMINION over all things bringing them into submission and using them to honor Christ...I don't believing in running scared.  |
Ok, are you saying that we can adapt parts of other religions into Christianity? Can you show me that in the Bible?
Running sacred? How about NO NEED TO APPLY.
Do you also celebrate The Epiphany, on January 6th?
Do you see ny problem with someone praying the rosary or the Station of the Cross?
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12-21-2008, 10:28 PM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!
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Ok, are you saying that we can adapt parts of other religions into Christianity? Can you show me that in the Bible?
Running sacred? How about NO NEED TO APPLY.
Do you also celebrate The Epiphany, on January 6th?
Do you see ny problem with someone praying the rosary or the Station of the Cross?
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God is the creator of time, seasons and days.
What some folks do with the time God gives them is sinful, while there are others who take the time that God gives them and dedicates it back to their Creator.
That is how I see Christmas.
Using the same concept, I don't have a problem with Christian Rock, Christian Rap, and etc.
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12-21-2008, 10:45 PM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!
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I can see many European cultural influences in our cultural traditions, but nothing we do is "pagan". No pagan gods are invoked, no rituals with muttering the names of pagan deities, no blood sacrifices, etc. It's all be reduced to seasonal decorations. By the way, I'm European and I'm proud of my European cultural heritage.
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If a priest of the goddess Cybele was alive today he would tell you that your pine tree and colored pine cones represented the god Attis, the consort of Cybele. If the Apostle Paul were alive he would tell you that he was afraid of you because he had bestowed upon you his labor in vain.
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12-21-2008, 11:03 PM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!
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God is the creator of time, seasons and days.
What some folks do with the time God gives them is sinful, while there are others who take the time that God gives them and dedicates it back to their Creator.
That is how I see Christmas.
Using the same concept, I don't have a problem with Christian Rock, Christian Rap, and etc.
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No offence, but we don't have to be concerned about what you don't have a problem with.
There are many who don't have a problem with lots of things, David Berg and his Children of God, also didn't have a problem with what they were involved in. Vernon Wayne Howell didn't have a problem with what he was involved with either, nor did Warren Steed Jeffs, have a problem with what he believed in. Many who profess relationship with God, believe that they can adopt all kinds of different forms of worship and baptize it into Christianity, and say that it is no problem.
Come to think about it there were some Israelites who made a golden calf and put it up to combine it with the worship of the Lord. It seems to me that God didn't go for the idea.
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
www.OnTimeJournal.com
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12-21-2008, 11:08 PM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!
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No offence, but we don't have to be concerned about what you don't have a problem with.
There are many who don't have a problem with lots of things, David Berg and his Children of God, also didn't have a problem with what they were involved in. Vernon Wayne Howell didn't have a problem with what he was involved with either, nor did Warren Steed Jeffs, have a problem with what he believed in. Many who profess relationship with God, believe that they can adopt all kinds of different forms of worship and baptize it into Christianity, and say that it is no problem.
Come to think about it there were some Israelites who made a golden calf and put it up to combine it with the worship of the Lord. It seems to me that God didn't go for the idea.
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
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No offense taken.
I understand your point very clearly. I appreciate it.
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12-21-2008, 11:11 PM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!
December 25-- who is the Creator of that day?
So if I dedicate that day to the Creator of that day, where is the harm in it?
If I treat that "holyday" with reverence to the Almighty God, where is the harm and how is that Almighty God not honored?
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12-22-2008, 12:02 AM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!
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December 25-- who is the Creator of that day?
So if I dedicate that day to the Creator of that day, where is the harm in it?
If I treat that "holyday" with reverence to the Almighty God, where is the harm and how is that Almighty God not honored?
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In your post you are saying that YOU dedicate "the" day, and YOU make up the holiday to reverence God. You see that has nothing to do with anyone else on the planet. It's all about you, and what you decide, it has nothing to do with my family or myself. Making up holy days and sacraments has been going on for hundreds of years. It's nothing new. Isn't it amazing how some individuals will ball and sqawl that standards are unbiblical, will turn right around and defend some Catholic holiday like they were defending Truth?
Glad you were not offended.
My intention is not to offend, just trying to make it as plain as possible.
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
www.OnTimeJournal.com
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12-22-2008, 12:43 AM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
December 25-- who is the Creator of that day?
So if I dedicate that day to the Creator of that day, where is the harm in it?
If I treat that "holyday" with reverence to the Almighty God, where is the harm and how is that Almighty God not honored?
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Good post JD.
Dec 25 is just a date set aside to celebrate the most awesome gift to the world. Even the world respects it. we might as well capitolize on the good that's in it
No one has to take part in pagan practice.
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