Preaching Evil Attitudes

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Well he has a point. I made the same comment in the later post. It seems that you just disagree with everyone just for the sake of disagreeing...playing Devils Advocate...hey...you wouldn't happen to be......nah

lol, no, I'm not anyone else (except for who I admitted I was... I miss my name BTW }=o( )

and it is a little bit of Devil's Advocate...

and the point wasn't that he said it, its that he said it like 5 times in 10 posts in the thread....

Originally Posted by Praxeas

No, what you really have to do is just listen to her words. Try it. Listen to her words from an unassuming non-subjective position

but your position is just as assuming as mine is, yours is just assuming bad, whereas mine is looking for good...

what she said was brash, but her message wasn't... I would say her mannerisms were closer to ungodly than the points she was trying to make...

oh, and I don't think she always did a good job of making her point, nor do I think her illustrations were that great, but we didn't see the whole message and that probably has a little to do with that....

[MissBrattified]

Jas 3:10 Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.

Jas 3:11 Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?

Jas 3:12 Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Jas 3:10 Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.

Jas 3:11 Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?

Jas 3:12 Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.

have you ever met anyone who never says anything wrong?

That verse applies to everyone and condemns us all...

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

have you ever met anyone who never says anything wrong?

That verse applies to everyone and condemns us all...

*sigh*

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

but your position is just as assuming as mine is, yours is just assuming bad, whereas mine is looking for good...

what she said was brash, but her message wasn't... I would say her mannerisms were closer to ungodly than the points she was trying to make...

oh, and I don't think she always did a good job of making her point, nor do I think her illustrations were that great, but we didn't see the whole message and that probably has a little to do with that....

how do you know I assumed bad? I never said anything about what I assumed or presumed she meant. You did though. I just watched it. In fact I was a little skeptical since J-roc posted it because he is sort of liberal compared to me and I thought he was doing this TIC. But as I watched it I was genuinely disappointed and had the same reason J-roc did. Now I am assuming HE was being serious and I see others are in agreement.

It seems that you make a LOT of assumptions and then you base your entire thinking, posts, dialog and assessments of others on that presumption you have

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

How's this, I'll do it for you... please show me where this is against scripture:

1. Don't yell and scream, be calm when in a disagreement...

2. Don't spend your life fretting and desperately fawning for your ex, get over him and move on with your life, he obviously did...

3. don't be a pushover, stand up for yourself, don't let yourself get walked all over constantly...

have fun

Exactly.

Maybe it is control freaks who do not like to see this sort of thing.

[bishoph]

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

essentially she was hitting the "move on" part...

forgiveness doesn't always eliminate all the hurt that is left...

While this is a little bit off the ongoing subject, I strongly disagree with the highlighted portion. One of the greatest indicators that true forgiveness has been realized is when the pain is no longer felt. When I can still feel pain from an offense the forgiving/healing has not been complete.

I have scars today from injuries I experienced throughout the years. While I can look at those scars and remember the incident that caused the scar I no longer feel the pain from the injury. If I could still feel the pain from those long ago injuries it would mean that infection and other issues were compounding/prolonging the wound and if not treated properly would result in my demise. If when you look back at situations in your life, you still feel the pain, you have not healed, nor have you truly forgiven. True forgiveness does not equate to no longer remembering it equates to no more pain.

Having said that, Juanita's rant does nothing to heal her listeners, but rather seeks to tranquilize them with the anesthesia of bitterness and revenge. The end result of this is that when they wake up years down the road they will still be hurting, confused, and reliving the pain of their past in stead of being delivered. And that my friends is evil and worldly.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

I am amazed that you would defend this tirade.

Well, maybe not.

Dude, wwod was far worse than that in mere typing, and you condoned him? Wow. Maybe MEN can do that, but not women? Consistency, thou art a rare jewel indeed.

I think some folks have so much of a "They're not one of us" that they LOOK for problems, while ignoring the same things in their own ranks.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Exactly.

Maybe it is control freaks who do not like to see this sort of thing.

Here you have it, ladies and gentlemen--a nice judgmental remark from one of the love-filled grace teachersthat got liberated from the UPC and its hateful clutches.