US Embassies in Egypt, Libya Breached, BO Silent - Page 9

Pressing-On · #81 09-14-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues

Where does the government draw the line for every offensive piece of literature, website, movie, etc that is used as a pretext for violence in the Muslim world? It doesn't make sense. It sets an unrealistic precedent. And there's no moral equivalency between an offensive movie and murder, and that's exactly what Hillary did with her statement. They should shut up about the offenses of unreasonable people and speak to the disgusting cultures that advocate violence at every turn.

Part of what you are saying is true, but somehow, people need to be responsible for how far they take their freedoms and their stoking of fires. A lot of that is unnecessary, but claim to all be done under the 1st Amendment.

Hate speech is not a good thing. I think as the world comes to an end, we will see more and we won't be able to stop it - which makes our lives more unsafe. As we become more immoral, we will legislate and regulate to corral the human soul. It only puts a soul into a tighter box.

I was sharing a story, with my daughter, that Nona Freeman told. You may have heard it. She was at a checkpoint in a foreign, probably Africa, airport and the woman that was looking over the passports was a horrible, rude and grouchy woman. Sis. Freeman said that she began to pray that God would bless that woman. When she got up to the counter, the woman was very kind to her.

The lesson - in that prayer, Sis. Freeman's heart was totally aligned with God's love for a horrible human being and God's Word. We better, I am talking to myself, get there real quick. It's serious business to win people to the Lord in these last days. And we will not do that without love. And we will not love unless we have been alone with God.

I have noticed that I am far more ready to jump into a debate/argument, from posting on-line, and it does, many times, make me an impatient person in other areas. I think if you were honest, you would say the same thing. I want to, in the future, be more careful with that.

Politics can be ugly and cruel. I also know that people who engage in that are far more likely to be focused on their opinions and views than in hating the person who opposes them. So, that's kind of how it can work.

Cindy · #82 09-14-2012, 10:42 AM

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Well I hope I'm not one of those that makes you cry. I did call someone s****d once and apologized. I try to mKe my points here, even passionately, without getting personal. If I do that call me out please. I have read some personal ad hominems that bothered me and I spoke out against those statements.

I believe in the Just Cause theory for war. Christ's admonition to turn the other cheek was directed to individuals, not armies and countries. Our efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq were just causes. Tyranny was removed, people were liberated, and freedom was granted to millions of men, women and children. Consequently, there's a greater freedom to spread the Gospel as a result. The loss of human life is tragic at any time, but passivity and appeasement only endangers freedom loving people and emboldens wicked men.

You have not been one of the ones to make me want to cry.

Pressing-On · #83 09-14-2012, 10:51 AM

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You have not been one of the ones to make me want to cry.

Religious arguments are more upsetting to me than politics. Life and death is an absolute, but politics can change.

Pressing-On · #84 09-14-2012, 10:55 AM

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The statement about China is true however. They are cheating. They keep the value of their currency manipulated and they don't play fair. And the trade deficit is abysmal. Just because American companies and individuals are making money in China has nothing to do with the fact that they are cheating.

Back in the fray -

He helped them further along their cheating and it didn't bother him one bit or he would have taken his money elsewhere, but he didn't. So, he's being disengenuous, IMO.

deacon blues · #85 09-14-2012, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Part of what you are saying is true, but somehow, people need to be responsible for how far they take their freedoms and their stoking of fires. A lot of that is unnecessary, but claim to all be done under the 1st Amendment.

Hate speech is not a good thing. I think as the world comes to an end, we will see more and we won't be able to stop it - which makes our lives more unsafe. As we become more immoral, we will legislate and regulate to corral the human soul. It only puts a soul into a tighter box.

I was sharing a story, with my daughter, that Nona Freeman told. You may have heard it. She was at a checkpoint in a foreign, probably Africa, airport and the woman that was looking over the passports was a horrible, rude and grouchy woman. Sis. Freeman said that she began to pray that God would bless that woman. When she got up to the counter, the woman was very kind to her.

The lesson - in that prayer, Sis. Freeman's heart was totally aligned with God's love for a horrible human being and God's Word. We better, I am talking to myself, get there real quick. It's serious business to win people to the Lord in these last days. And we will not do that without love. And we will not love unless we have been alone with God.

I have noticed that I am far more ready to jump into a debate/argument, from posting on-line, and it does, many times, make me an impatient person in other areas. I think if you were honest, you would say the same thing. I want to, in the future, be more careful with that.

Politics can be ugly and cruel. I also know that people who engage in that are far more likely to be focused on their opinions and views than in hating the person who opposes them. So, that's kind of how it can work.

A lot to agree with here. Except being a good Christian stuff. Cmon, you gotta be able to lay the Holy Ghost aside once in a while...

deacon blues · #86 09-14-2012, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Cindy

You have not been one of the ones to make me want to cry.

:whew

Pressing-On · #87 09-14-2012, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues

A lot to agree with here. Except being a good Christian stuff. Cmon, you gotta be able to lay the Holy Ghost aside once in a while...

Righteous indignation?

deacon blues · #88 09-14-2012, 04:03 PM

Folks this thing is growing and getting out of hand---this is more serious than at first. The protests are growing beyond just the Middle East.

AreYouReady? · #89 09-14-2012, 05:05 PM

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deacon blues · #90 09-14-2012, 06:01 PM

Today there were some 30 acts of violence throughout the Middle East, Africa and Asia. We are becoming irrelevant in the region because we are apologetic, project weakness, we "lead from behind". We are embolding our enemies and we're causing our ally in region, Israel, to wonder if they can depend on us in a crisis. Syria is out of control and we are completely disengaged. Iran continues to work toward nuclear weapons apparently unchanged be empty rhetoric and feckless sanctions.

And the administration wants to keep harping about the video, Romneys comments and all sorts of other things. Where is the president? He has yet to explain what his policy is on this. And where is the press? Why aren't they asking questions about how the policy of reaching out to the Muslim world the past three years is in shambles? All of the support of the revolutions in Egypt and Libya have produced nothing. The crowds that were shouting "We Love America" earlier this year are now shouting "Death to America!"

Where did this foreign policy go wrong?

And MSNBC can only talk about Romney.