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Old 02-19-2007, 09:58 PM
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I think some forget who the church belongs to- God- Just because we pour our blood, sweat and tears into a congregation, it does not belong to us. The laity also, pours its blood, sweat and tears into the work of God, too. It does not belong to either, but to God.
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Old 02-19-2007, 10:30 PM
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The early church PRAYED, believing that God's choice for the replacement of Judas would be determined by a vote.
This is scary, I'm agreeing again with Berk, maybe it's the pistol he has clutched in his hands.
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Old 02-19-2007, 10:33 PM
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duh.....I'm stupid back to the cave!
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Old 02-19-2007, 11:13 PM
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Have you heard that a Mega church in the west is in major turmoil since the pastor handed down the church to someone else last week???????
That happens all the time. I have seen it first hand. Because many of the sheep forget they are following Christ.
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Old 02-20-2007, 12:35 AM
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I'll just report...it is NOT The Rock Church or CLC.

Let's just debate the issue here...

Is it right for a pastor to single-handedly change the church by-laws to state he solely has a say in who the pastor is?

The longstanding by-laws stated the selection of a pastor would go to a vote of the church body.
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Old 02-20-2007, 01:01 AM
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I'll just report...it is NOT The Rock Church or CLC.

Let's just debate the issue here...

Is it right for a pastor to single-handedly change the church by-laws to state he solely has a say in who the pastor is?
The longstanding by-laws stated the selection of a pastor would go to a vote of the church body.

Not only is it wrong its ILLEGAL!
Especially if the church is incorporated!
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Old 02-20-2007, 01:29 AM
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I'll just report...it is NOT The Rock Church or CLC.

Let's just debate the issue here...

Is it right for a pastor to single-handedly change the church by-laws to state he solely has a say in who the pastor is?

The longstanding by-laws stated the selection of a pastor would go to a vote of the church body.
NO!
If the church had true multiple leadership this would not happen, the elders would prepare ahead of time for the transition so that the change could be seamless. There is no biblical prescient for the congregation to vote on leadership.
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Old 02-20-2007, 11:51 AM
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Having just got "the scoop"....I can tell you that this is a TRUE thread.
I feel bad for this church...really I do.
GREAT CHURCH....I dont agrre much with the Pastor and this "move" on his part does add to my list of why I personally dont care for him.
Oh well...life goes on....
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Old 02-20-2007, 12:18 PM
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Is it another church passed on to a son? Let me guess son n law?

Amazing the sons are always called to take over the church, just amazing.
Amazing that this is not always the case. We received a new pastor a couple of years ago and he has no relation to the former pastor.
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Old 02-20-2007, 12:20 PM
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Just another reason why I am happy to be able to say that I am no longer Pentecostal. Sad, isn't it - I've found in other church organizations that when problems happen, it does not get spread around like gossip. And when someone does happen to hear about it, the first thing they want to do is PRAY.

Maybe that's something that those who thrive on this kind of stuff should give some thought to.
I am sorry you feel this way, not all of us are that way.
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