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Originally Posted by Ferd
you are wrong about this. natural born citizen means born in the US. parents dont matter.
Now the question of Mr. Obama is interesiting in that Hawaii was not a state at the time of his birth and the laws at the time were slightly different.
so there remains some small question.
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Minor VS Happersett spells it out - natural born citizen means LEGALLY a person born to US citizen parentS. PLURAL.
It does NOT mean 'someone born in the US parents don't matter.'
If that is all it meant, then there is no such thing as a difference between a citizen and a natural born citizen. Naturalised citizens and people who are citizens SOLELY BECAUSE THEY WERE BORN IN THE US are citizens because of the EXACT SAME REASON - naturalisation law (14th amendment, anyone?).
THEREFORE, a 'natural born citizen' MUST BE someone who is not ONLY a citizen, but something ELSE.... natural born citizenship is citizenship which is NOT conferred by NATURALIZATION LAWS. The ONLY citizenship that fits that specification is a US citizen born to two US citizens - there is no NEED for any law to establish such a person as a 'US citizen'.
HOWEVER, the 'US citizen by reason of birth inside the US' is something that occurs BECAUSE OF AN ACT OF LAW - the 14th amendment and the naturalisation/citizenship laws.
WHERE Obama was born is largely irrelevant. The fact his father was ADMITTEDLY a foreign citizen PROVES IN ITSELF Barry is not eligible.
Minor vs Happersett.
Not that our government seems to care about laws anymore, but hey, at least let the record be clear for posterity's sake, I guess.