Should women wear their hair up?

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Falla39

Some, male and female, never heard what I REALLY said. They heard what they
WANTED to hear. It better served their spirit. The are many spirits gone out into
the world today. Opposing, resisting, deceiving, hindering, vexing, provoking
spirits, etc.

Never was I told or taught, to wear my hair up or down.

I made some comments as to why I wore my hair up, as a young mother and
wife. I also made the following statement:

"This is not in anyway, to speak against a woman that feels otherwise.
This is MY personal story, fifty yrs, after the fact".

I never heard of the "magic hair" term until I heard it on AFF.

If the Bible (Word) had itemized every thing, there would have been no need for
the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of Truth to come. The truth was hid from the wise (in
their own eyes) and prudent, and revealed unto babes (open humble spirit willing
to receive).

I feel very sorry for some young mothers and fathers, even ministers, today with
young and teenage children, and grandchildren.

Instead of opposing and resisting the things my elders told me, we didn't back talk
and although we DID NOT understand the reasoning of some of their words, we
listened, respected and waited.... at least until we became adults.

If we don't listen to our godly parents as children, we will answer to GOd
as adults.

Ever notice how many times in Rev.3, it says, He that hath an ear, let him hear what
the Spirit saith to the churches. It is not just to the church but to as many as are led
(a choice) by the Spirit of God. A teachable spirit is not something we see in
abundance today, sad to say.

Falla39

Sis. Falla,

What does this post have to do with the topic? I take instruction from my elders as well. None of them share your feelings about women wearing their hair down.

It isn't disrespectful for people on this forum to disagree with your posts, and ask for clear reasoning behind them.

I do have a teachable spirit, and disagreeing with your post doesn't indicate otherwise. When my mother or one of my older sisters speak to me about issues, I listen, and don't argue, even if I disagree. When my pastor teaches about something, I listen, and try to hear his point of view--even if I don't like it. When someone on this forum speaks, I read, and respond as if we are equals, because no one on this forum is in a position of authority over me.

IMO, you need to stop touting the fact that you are an elder woman as a prop for your views. Instead, support your views with scripture and clear reasoning. No one earns respect simply by aging. If that were the case, then a lot of ungodly older people would demand respect, based on age alone.

Please pardon my plain speaking--I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I like to base conversations around what the Word has to say, and I take the opinions of men--and women--with a grain of salt. God's Word should have the final say on everything, whether by principle or black and white verse.

[Theophil]

Originally Posted by CC1

My favorite hair story is from around the very early 1980's. Probably 1981 or 1982. My wife and I were in Jackson, MS for the annual big National Music Ministry Conference along with a few thousand other Pentecostals.

When we were in a store at the mall waiting on an elevator we saw heads suddenly snapping around and looks of amazement and shock on fellow shoppers faces. When we turned to see what they were looking at we saw a very classily dressed UPC couple walking toward us.

The were both dressed very nicely with the man having on a well fitting suit and the woman a very classy and pretty dress.

The head turner was the woman's hair. It was truly a "beehive" hairdo. By that I mean it was somehow extremely smoothly (think cotton candy here) fixed so that it began at her scalp and rose, shaped like a cone, a good two feet up, getting smaller as it went up. There were no curls just this smooth mass of hair rising to an incredible height.

For you old timers it looked EXACTLY like the "Coneheads" on Saturday Night Live at the time. The Coneheads were characters in SNL skits. They were aliens from another planet wth heads shaped like cones and this woman's hair made her head appear EXACTLY as those characters looked. I am guessing this must have been what was going through peoples minds as they suppressed laughs and turned their heads away to hide grins.

The sad thing is that this man and woman obvoiusly knew all of the head turning going on and they both walked by with proud, almost smug looks on their faces like they were saying " yes look at our glorious selfs you poor unwahsed and unclean heatherns".

I just can't believe that somebody, somewhere whom this woman trusted would not tell her she looked like a moron and was not reflecting any glory for God in any way, shape or fashion.

ROFL!!!!!

[U376977]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Sis. Falla,

What does this post have to do with the topic? I take instruction from my elders as well. None of them share your feelings about women wearing their hair down.

It isn't disrespectful for people on this forum to disagree with your posts, and ask for clear reasoning behind them.

I do have a teachable spirit, and disagreeing with your post doesn't indicate otherwise. When my mother or one of my older sisters speak to me about issues, I listen, and don't argue, even if I disagree. When my pastor teaches about something, I listen, and try to hear his point of view--even if I don't like it. When someone on this forum speaks, I read, and respond as if we are equals, because no one on this forum is in a position of authority over me.

IMO, you need to stop touting the fact that you are an elder woman as a prop for your views. Instead, support your views with scripture and clear reasoning. No one earns respect simply by aging. If that were the case, then a lot of ungodly older people would demand respect, based on age alone.

Please pardon my plain speaking--I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I like to base conversations around what the Word has to say, and I take the opinions of men--and women--with a grain of salt. God's Word should have the final say on everything, whether by principle or black and white verse.

I've got to agree with you here, miss bratt. It seems like falla39 uses the "im old and wiser than you" on EVERY post. Reminds me of Dr. Vaughn saying, "Im a Dr. so you better listen to me, if you were as educated me..you ignorant...."
And I might be reading more into it than she meant but when she wrote the below it sounds to me IMO like she was saying everyone who did not bow to the wise one had a "bad spirit."
Sorry if I am wrong or way off base because I dnk sis. falla39. Just read a couple of her posts.


Some, male and female, never heard what I REALLY said. They heard what they
WANTED to hear. It better served their spirit. The are many spirits gone out into
the world today. Opposing, resisting, deceiving, hindering, vexing, provoking
spirits, etc.

[OnTheFritz]

Originally Posted by Falla39

Instead of opposing and resisting the things my elders told me, we didn't back talk and although we DID NOT understand the reasoning of some of their words, we listened, respected and waited.... at least until we became adults.

...which is why we now have so many man-made traditions that have become gospel. I understand and respect what my elders have to say. But if it is correct, it should be able to withstand some scrutiny.

I have to agree with MissB's comments.

[RandyWayne]

The more I think about it the more I think I am at the prime of my life. My 40th is in a few days and I find that maybe my elders really DO know some things they are talking about through sheer experience, and yet so many are living in a mental rut. Also, I look at younger people who haven't lived nearly as much yet think they know it all and HOPE that I am at an in between point where I have some experience, yet haven't become "stuck in my ways" yet.

[Falla39]

Quoted byMiss Brattified:

IMO, you need to stop touting the fact that you are an elder woman as a prop for your views. Instead, support your views with scripture and clear reasoning. No one earns respect simply by aging. If that were the case, then a lot of ungodly older people would demand respect, based on age alone.

Please pardon my plain speaking--I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I like to base conversations around what the Word has to say, and I take the opinions of men--and women--with a grain of salt. God's Word should have the final say on everything, whether by principle or black and white verse.
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I doubt your dear mother would have written the words to an elder that
you have written here when she was your age, as well as others that were
agreeing with you. I would be ashamed of any of our three daughters, ages
49, 40 and 35, if they spoke to an elder as you have spoken to me. They
would not do it. To me it is the "spirit of the age".

Now when your daughter gets your age and you get your mother's, or my
age, you may understand what I am saying.

Even at your age, I would never have spoken with the loftiness you have
spoken to me. We were taught to listen and learn. How long? Certainly until
we were mature enough to know how to respect our elders. We respected
our elders in the family and in the church, OR any elder, as long asd they
lived.

Paul told young Timothy in his first epistle to him, not rebuke an elder, but
entreat him as a father. The older women as mothers. the younger men as
brethren and the younger women as sisters, with all purity.1 Tim.5:1-

Miss Brattified, I pray you will receive this post in the spirit in which it is
written. It is not to offend but to help. I am not offended but I do see a
trend that COULD yield some sad reaping.

Hugs,

Falla39

[freeatlast]

Dearest Sis Falla. None of the posts you refer to were rebukes. just wise council to you.

Do you feel that no minister can ever minister to someone who is older than themselves?

Our pastor is 36. Would not recieve councel from one so young?

[Sherri]

To me, Elders are more from a spiritual perspective than from a chronological one. I highly respect Sis. Falla, but no more than I respect Miss Brattified. They are both my peers on this forum - I am in between them in age. I think they both have insights from time to time that I can learn from. But I don't think I should listen to one more than the other, just because of her age. JMHO

[Aquila]

We've become like the Pharisees of Christ's day, teaching for commandments the doctrines (traditions) of men. God help us. And sadly, since men make the rules, women are left shouldering the burden of most of our man made doctrines.

[freeatlast]

There is a man that is 78, Godly in his life, his elders taught him that those that believe, would take up serpents. In respect to his elders he teaches this doctrine also.

He is 78, much my senior, must I respect this man?

Am I not allowed to question or challenge him because he's older than I?