Re: Is The Serpent Seed Doctine A "Damnable Heresy
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Originally Posted by Tiberius Pantera
H1, God could have very well formed Jesus from the same dust he formed Adam from.
but the scripture tells us that Jesus is decended from them. I feel no need to discuss DNA. it isnt required. But Jesus was OF his mother and OF his father.
he was (and here is where Dan and I may depart somewhat) both Man as he was decended from Adam from Mary and he was God as mary concieved of the Holy Ghost.
At least we can all agree Jesus was not fathered by Tiberius Pantera !
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Re: Is The Serpent Seed Doctine A "Damnable Heresy
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
Brother... had he been the literal SEED of DAVID he could not have been the SEED OF GOD.... he was the seed of David in the fact that he was the OFFSRING of David through Marys lineage.......
And also through Joseph's.
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Re: Is The Serpent Seed Doctine A "Damnable Heresy
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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne
Vaughn, I'm not sure I believe exactly what you do in regard to where Jesus got His flesh from, but I don't believe he had Mary's DNA. I believe He had flesh, yes. The Bible says He did. I believe it was human flesh too, but the DNA was His own. I believe this because with human flesh from Adam came sin. Jesus was sinless. If we all, regardless of how sinless we are, have to repent and ask forgiveness of sins and Jesus did not, then how did His flesh become 'saved'? The curse of sin was on all flesh from Adam forward....except Jesus.
The Bible says that what was inside Mary was conceived of the Holy Ghost...not conceived of her and the Holy Ghost. Mary did not begat Jesus. He was begotten of the Father.
Anyway, not sure what kind of doctrine this is, but I don't believe it to be a salvation issue nor do I believe it takes away from the sacrifice Jesus made on the cross for me, nor does it make Him less powerful or anything else that's important.
Re: Is The Serpent Seed Doctine A "Damnable Heresy
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Originally Posted by Tiberius Pantera
a man coming to God?
only those not touched by the seed of the serpent can be saved and they are already saved, and cannot be lost!
crazy.
Tiberius,, where did you get that from?? that is nothing close to what we believe... we believe every human born is born the Seed of Satan... and thats why they must be born again or remain the enemies of God
Re: Is The Serpent Seed Doctine A "Damnable Heresy
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Originally Posted by Tiberius Pantera
both accounts prove Jesus the son of Adam. which is what was required for Jesus to be THE sacrifice for humanity.
Right. So if we can put Jesus in the lineage of Joseph without DNA support, doing the same with Mary isn't any different, nor does it make Jesus less of a sacrifice or less of a human. IOW, the Bible shows that Jesus wasn't anymore tied to Adam via DNA through Joseph than He was through Mary. That's how I see it anyway.
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Re: Is The Serpent Seed Doctine A "Damnable Heresy
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
You cannot create life without creating blood,.,, which begins with a BLOOD CELL
You are correct. I can't. But God can.
God spoke animals into existence. Those animals have blood. Fish of the sea have blood. Fowl of the air have blood. Those things were created just in God speaking them into existence.
Adam was created from dust of the ground. No blood mentioned.
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Re: Is The Serpent Seed Doctine A "Damnable Heresy
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
It begins w/ two sex cells (egg and sperm)... formed meiotically ... that join (conception) to create a zygote ...
Can a resident biologist tell me if this qualifies as a blood cell?
No blood in those cells.
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Re: Is The Serpent Seed Doctine A "Damnable Heresy
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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne
You are correct. I can't. But God can.
God spoke animals into existence. Those animals have blood. Fish of the sea have blood. Fowl of the air have blood. Those things were created just in God speaking them into existence.
Adam was created from dust of the ground. No blood mentioned.
My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. 
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