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12-29-2010, 09:33 AM
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
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What do you mean? You think she should have been put down?
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I think he felt there was a line where we play God in keeping a person alive ... keep in mind this was as he too was literally dying ... a distinct perspective from where you and I are posting right now.
I don't how much of it was his logic as opposed to pain.
I believe we get different responses based on where we are in life ... Miss Bratt's indecision when it came to her kids I think is evidence of that ...
I truly believe Jason 10 or 20 years from now may not be as caustic about this issue as he is right now.
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12-29-2010, 09:39 AM
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
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This is apples and oranges, because the joining of that man and that woman, itself, is not offensive. It's a completely different issue.
I know people who wouldn't attend the wedding of people who had been living together. They had been married previously, so they felt that the relationship was founded on sin. Even that is a different scenario, because although sin brought them together (unless you believe that married people should divorce their current spouses and go back to their original ones), their 'being married' isn't a continuing of sin. Once they are married, it's no longer sin, even though it began with sin. For a homosexual couple, it's a continuation of sin. There is simply no righting of the wrong. That's why a homosexual wedding is so different than the others that are brought up.
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Of sorts, though, it's not apples and oranges. I think one of the points that a lot of us...me for sure....have attempted to make is, that people treat homosexuality differently than they treat everything else.
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12-29-2010, 09:45 AM
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
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Oh! Perhaps I misunderstood the question... I am not so sure I would attend a practicing Christian's wedding IF they were getting married to a Muslim or Buddhist who does not recognize Jesus as God. And you are right it would be based on the clear instruction to avoid marrying the unbeliever.
I think a strong case might be made that a true Christian would not be doing that exact thing though.
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So if a Christian is marrying a Muslim.....you wouldn't go??????
Why do Christians feel the need to place their stamp of approval or disapproval on all the actions of others?
And the "Unequally yoked" verse does not speak directly to marriage.
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12-29-2010, 09:46 AM
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
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Would any of you pastors officiate a mixed couple, if one was a Christian and the other wasn't?
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I would.
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12-29-2010, 09:49 AM
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
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And some you thought you left legalism ... BUUUUUUUUUWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHA.
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One of the biggest shockers I ever faced was the realization that the UPC often takes second place, or worse, to many other groups when it comes to legalism. In fact, other groups are far worse because it's more disguised. Leaving the UPC does not equivocate leaving legalism and many, many ex-upcers are legalists with a different dress code.
The UPC does not have a monopoly on legalism.
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12-29-2010, 09:50 AM
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith
One of the biggest shockers I ever faced was the realization that the UPC often takes second place, or worse, to many other groups when it comes to legalism. In fact, other groups are far worse because it's more disguised. Leaving the UPC does not equivocate leaving legalism and many, many ex-upcers are legalists with a different dress code.
The UPC does not have a monopoly on legalism.
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This is true.
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12-29-2010, 10:03 AM
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
I thought the same thing. It's not a fair comparison at all. Much, much worse to aid and abet a killing.
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For the record, I wasn't trying to "compare" anything.
I was asking if what he would do in the "A" scenario, would he also do it in the "B" scenario.
Maybe I should have asked if he was willing to lend comfort during the abortion would he also want to lend comfort in the murder of a born person.
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12-29-2010, 10:08 AM
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
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Originally Posted by DAII
I think he felt there was a line where we play God in keeping a person alive ... keep in mind this was as he too was literally dying ... a distinct perspective from where you and I are posting right now.
I don't how much of it was his logic as opposed to pain.
I believe we get different responses based on where we are in life ... Miss Bratt's indecision when it came to her kids I think is evidence of that ...
I truly believe Jason 10 or 20 years from now may not be as caustic about this issue as he is right now.
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To me, withdrawing medical intervention is not euthanasia. I have no problem with holding medical intervention for certain cases. from my understanding euthanasia giving someone something to hasten death.
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The sinful thoughts subdue,
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And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
Last edited by Truthseeker; 12-29-2010 at 10:10 AM.
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12-29-2010, 10:10 AM
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith
So if a Christian is marrying a Muslim.....you wouldn't go??????
Why do Christians feel the need to place their stamp of approval or disapproval on all the actions of others?
And the "Unequally yoked" verse does not speak directly to marriage.
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Maybe because some what to prove what is acceptable to the Lord.
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
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12-29-2010, 10:19 AM
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
Maybe because some what to prove what is acceptable to the Lord.
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And that's YOUR job?
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