"Please ignore the posts that have provided ample scriptural proof for the remission of sins being provided by the blood of Jesus Christ and faith in the same Jesus Christ.
Instead, "believe" the 4 words excised from one verse and combined with 3 words from another verse in a different book of the Bible that tell us of "magic" in the water when you ignore the surrounding context."
Or have I not been generous with your view?
here we go with the magic stuff again.
it gets old.
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Don't ya think if it mattered then in Mattew 28:19 Jesus would of just said be baptised in my name which is Jesus why would jesus himself just not tell them how to be baptised if matthew 28:19 is error why did jesus say it...
Being "baptized in Jesus Name" means alot more then simply quoting the name of Jesus. One could certainly have that done and still not be baptised in Jesus Name.
It means calling on the name of Jesus in heartfelt confession. It symbolizes ones induction into the body of Christ, showing the old man is buried and a new life in Christ has begun.
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
Ok so somone answer this was there a father in heaven while jesus was on earth when matthew 28:19 was quoted..
No doubt about it.
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
True belief is to obey NOT mental assent. Bible faith includes water baptism in Jesus Name FOR the remission of sins. ONLY through faith in obedience to the Word when the penitent is baptized in Jesus Name does Calvary's blood remit sins.
Not magic just Bible like Naaman dipping hinself in Jordan according to the saying of the man of God it worked.
Faith in obedience works every time it is tried.
You're preaching to the choir about "faith AND obedience" here, Bro.
But, how did John's disciples get "remission of sins" without the name of Jesus being used in baptism? Mark 1:4, Luke 1:77 and Luke 3:3.
Ok so somone answer this was there a father in heaven while jesus was on earth when matthew 28:19 was quoted..
Jesus was in heaven while on earth (John 3:13). As to His Deity He is omnipresent, gathered in thousands of places simultaneously wherever two or three are gathered. As to His begotten Sonship He was limited to one place.
The singular name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost is Jesus.
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Zechariah 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
But here's the problem..... people who have been baptized with the minister repeating Matt. 28:19 feel like they have been obedient to scripture. They are directly repeating Jesus' statement.
Will God send them to hell over that? I honestly don't know.
Ok so then at that time there was a father and son. So that baptism formula would be correct at that time.. I am not sure but didn't jesus say somewere in there that today me and my father are one if so I need the scripture please
Ok so then at that time there was a father and son. So that baptism formula would be correct at that time.. I am not sure but didn't jesus say somewere in there that today me and my father are one if so I need the scripture please
No, you are understanding wrong. Father is not a name. Son is not a name. Jesus is the name of MT 28:19. It does not say "baptize them in the name of the Father, the name of the Son, the name of the Holy Spirit" as if there were three names. There is one Name that the F, S, and H.S. share and that Name is Jesus.
Jesus said when you have seen Him you have seen the Father (John 14:9). John 10:30 is the verse where Jesus says that He is One with the Father
Just a side note: please reply to specific posts and not a general reply to the initial post so we can track the flow of this conversation easier. Just reply to the specific post that of the person it is directed towards.
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Zechariah 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
Ok so somone answer this was there a father in heaven while jesus was on earth when matthew 28:19 was quoted..
KWSS1976,
Why don't you ask your pastor all these questions? Either he isn't preaching bible or you rebel against his teaching. If you're so unsure about doctrine, try the trinity baptist church down the street! They might be able to accommodate your beliefs.
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