Christ Church Pastor Change

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by bkstokes

Bro. Epley

I will say that a friend of mine (he is an AG pastor) is presently reading a book about Jesus name baptism. He is truly open to it. I don't think that would happen if I treated him like the plague.

I am friends with many Trinity preachers I have never treated them unkindly however I do not worship with Trinitarians I am commanded by Paul and John not to.
I teach they are lost.

[bkstokes]

So

If they are lost -- how do you explain them receiving the very Spirit of the Living God?


By the way -- are you related to a Greg Epley?

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I am friends with many Trinity preachers I have never treated them unkindly however I do not worship with Trinitarians I am commanded by Paul and John not to.I teach they are lost.

Where is this?

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Sherri

What I believe is very important to me, but going to a church that doesn't believe exactly the same doesn't bother me. I am secure in what I believe is truth. My kids know why we baptize in Jesus' name, but they know that the majority of the body of Christ doesn't see it that way. It doesn't hurt them to worship with others who are Spirit filled but don't understand Jesus' name baptism.

I think if you had been to more "Trinitarian" churches, you would see that they don't focus or teach "trinitarian" doctrine - I've never heard it one time. It's just not an issue with them like it is on our side. The only difference I've ever seen is the way they baptize. Sometimes I hear people say things that are blatantly "three-personality", but it's rare, and I just ignore it. Eat the fish and spit out the bones.

Our church kids have gone to an AG camp for years and never one time been taught trinitarian doctrine. They don't bring it up, and they don't baptize at the camp, so I see nothing wrong with it. We've had probably 30 kids filled with the Holy Ghost there in the past few years. The worship is awesome and the altar services are amazing. It feels just like UPC camp services.

I will disagree with you on the bolded part. I've been to trinity churches and they teach it every time they say, "In the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost." They say that a lot when they pray, they include it in their preaching, and in their speech in general.

This reminded me of something that happened with my wife once. We went to visit the church my family has its roots in. It's a trinity Spanish Pentecostal Church of God. Everything is done in Spanish. Well, my wife does not know Spanish, except for those words common in our Amercan society. This was shortly after she had received the Holy Ghost. After the service I asked her if she was bored because of not knowing Spanish. She said the only part of the service she was able to make out was every time the preacher said, "En el nombre del Padre, Hijo, y Espiritu Santo." She said every time he said that she felt a check in her spirit, like something was going on that shouldn't be, but she didn't know why she was feeling that check until she figured out he was using the titles.

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by Rico

I will disagree with you on the bolded part. I've been to trinity churches and they teach it every time they say, "In the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost." They say that a lot when they pray, they include it in their preaching, and in their speech in general.

This reminded me of something that happened with my wife once. We went to visit the church my family has its roots in. It's a trinity Spanish Pentecostal Church of God. Everything is done in Spanish. Well, my wife does not know Spanish, except for those words common in our Amercan society. This was shortly after she had received the Holy Ghost. After the service I asked her if she was bored because of not knowing Spanish. She said the only part of the service she was able to make out was every time the preacher said, "En el nombre del Padre, Hijo, y Espiritu Santo." She said every time he said that she felt a check in her spirit, like something was going on that shouldn't be, but she didn't know why she was feeling that check until she figured out he was using the titles.

Well, I don't like to hear it either, but I just ignore it - they honestly don't know what they're doing. I've also heard them pray many times in the name of Jesus. I was just saying that I've never heard them teach on trinity and how the Oneness is wrong.

[bkstokes]

Originally Posted by Rico

I will disagree with you on the bolded part. I've been to trinity churches and they teach it every time they say, "In the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost." They say that a lot when they pray, they include it in their preaching, and in their speech in general.

This reminded me of something that happened with my wife once. We went to visit the church my family has its roots in. It's a trinity Spanish Pentecostal Church of God. Everything is done in Spanish. Well, my wife does not know Spanish, except for those words common in our Amercan society. This was shortly after she had received the Holy Ghost. After the service I asked her if she was bored because of not knowing Spanish. She said the only part of the service she was able to make out was every time the preacher said, "En el nombre del Padre, Hijo, y Espiritu Santo." She said every time he said that she felt a check in her spirit, like something was going on that shouldn't be, but she didn't know why she was feeling that check until she figured out he was using the titles.

I will have to say that I think the customs are changing. They normally pray in the name of Jesus.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Sherri

Where is this?

Galatians 1:8, 2John 9-10.

[bkstokes]

Originally Posted by bkstokes

So

If they are lost -- how do you explain them receiving the very Spirit of the Living God?


By the way -- are you related to a Greg Epley?

bump

[bkstokes]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Galatians 1:8, 2John 9-10.

Bro.

Those verses in 2 John have to be taken in context.

7Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.

All the trinitarians that I know say that Jesus was the son of man (flesh) and the son of God (Spirit).

[bkstokes]

The gospel is the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Where is there another gospel? They baptize different, but Acts 2:38 is not the gospel. It is what a person should do after he believes the gospel. The gospel is summarized by Paul in 1 Cor 15.