Ron Paul is running!!!

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

No one ever said that their principles are satisified BY losing.

What fool would finally feel satisfied if they lost.

All people are saying is that standing by their principles are more important than being on the winning side.

Also... Ron Paul is running for the Republican Candidacy... he isn't running third party...

Do you feel it necessary to vote for one of the other possible Republican Candidates rather than Ron Paul? Just asking....

I don't understand why voting for Ron Paul rather than the other Republican presidential candidates is problematic.

I come closer to seeing the problem if he was running 3rd party... or... like Ferd... if you just don't like the guy.... but you like him... so why do you feel it is a bad thing to vote for him in the Republican Presidential Primary?

and I am saying it is better than having half of what you want than all of nothing

[Digging4Truth]

Ferd... you do realize that Ron Paul is not running 3rd party do you not?

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Ferd... you do realize that Ron Paul is not running 3rd party do you not?

I realize that Ron Paul will be listed as a republican. he will be running for the republican primary.

The third party stuff was for our friend Chan who is a third party guy.

Ron Paul is somewhere between a constitutionalist and a Liberatarian. kind of a "Libratarian with morals" so he is kind of but not quite, not a republian.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

He, of course, Digging is just making a point. How can you vote for someone that is going to lose and you know they are going to lose? It's like giving your vote away.

But that's the wrong way to look at voting. What he's doing is the same thing as the sin of gambling - he's voting based on who he thinks is going to win. It is the responsibility of citizens in a government that is by, of and for the people to vote for whoever is the best person for the job and whoever's positions are constitutional.

We virtually stay on top of the whole process and know the outcome before it comes. I knew Gore wasn't going to win as much as you did.

Again, it's the horse race mentality.

Ron Paul is running on the Republican ticket and I will be watching that very closely.

The Republican establishment is going to do whatever it can to push him aside.

I think, though, at this time security is on the minds of every American and Giuliani knows how to bring it. I'm not sure this country is that concerned about our Constitution. They don't really believe it's in as much jeopardy, IMO. Or at least they are more concerned with others issues.

Those willing to sacrifice liberty for a little security and who are willing to trample on the Constitution for a little security are entitled to neither liberty nor security. And the time will come when they will be denied both.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Ferd

I realize that Ron Paul will be listed as a republican. he will be running for the republican primary.

The third party stuff was for our friend Chan who is a third party guy.

Ron Paul is somewhere between a constitutionalist and a Liberatarian. kind of a "Libratarian with morals" so he is kind of but not quite, not a republian.

Okay.. Cool...

Alright... How about some regular old fashioned discussion?

Desiring to hear your opinion I ask....

For what reasons do you feel that Ron Paul is not quite a republican. If you would... cite specific issues (some documentation would be nice but I will not require it... I will look it up myself if need be)

In advance... thanks for your thoughful answer.

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Okay.. Cool...

Alright... How about some regular old fashioned discussion?

Desiring to hear your opinion I ask....

For what reasons do you feel that Ron Paul is not quite a republican. If you would... cite specific issues (some documentation would be nice but I will not require it... I will look it up myself if need be)

In advance... thanks for your thoughful answer.

It seems to me that Ron Paul is the only real Republican in the whole bunch. There was a time when the Republican Party (or at least a significant portion of it) favored less government, lower taxes, "conservative" positions on social issues, and so on.

[Pressing-On]

Chan;But that's the wrong way to look at voting. What he's doing is the same thing as the sin of gambling - he's voting based on who he thinks is going to win. It is the responsibility of citizens in a government that is by, of and for the people to vote for whoever is the best person for the job and whoever's positions are constitutional.

Chancellor,
How can you call it gambling when no money is laid on the table? It's not like bets on a football game.

Again, it's the horse race mentality.

Politics is a race in every way.

The Republican establishment is going to do whatever it can to push him aside.

I so totally agree with you here!

Those willing to sacrifice liberty for a little security and who are willing to trample on the Constitution for a little security are entitled to neither liberty nor security. And the time will come when they will be denied both.

You are so right and I blame that on our educational system.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Chan

It seems to me that Ron Paul is the only real Republican in the whole bunch. There was a time when the Republican Party (or at least a significant portion of it) favored less government, lower taxes, "conservative" positions on social issues, and so on.

You are right, Chancellor, he is. You would really like him if you met him in person. I don't see how he has kept such a gentle nature being involved so long in politics.

Great. Threads moved "out of the way", relegated to the back forty of the AFF.

I'm done with this place.

[Digging4Truth]

Well it is a political discussion.... It does appear that it would belong where it has been moved to.

i will admit that I have posted threads of a political nature in the Fellowship Hlall because I am used to there being a News section and a Politics section. When I did not see a politics section I posted in the FH....

I have only recently read the description for the News section and saw that it does also include politics.

Also... I use the New Posts option to the areas in which a post is contained is of no consequence to me.