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Old 03-12-2007, 10:23 AM
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The thing is, there were subtle clues in the opriginal post that could need some clarification.

If any other kind of sin was being subtly legitimized, there would be a similar outcry.
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Old 03-12-2007, 11:11 AM
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Wow this thread is tripping me out !!

Heavenlyone and Newman, what if Rhoni could verify that this is real?
would you change your mind about this being fake? think about it,what would a person have to lose of they are dying.

Rhoni where are you
Thad, forgive me. It's not that I don't believe that it's real, but this is the internet, and if I don't know that person in real life, I have my caution shoes on, even though I pray for the person anyway.

As I stated before, I once fell for a well-known, well-liked poster who supposedly died, even sent me an email about his death to make it more real, played on my emotions, knowing that me and a couple others from the forum were looking for a way to attend his funeral while he read our posts and said nothing. I still haven't gotten an apology to this day.

So, thanks to that person, I now have a lack of trust when it comes to these kinds of issues. I hope you and CBO can understand that.
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Old 03-12-2007, 11:13 AM
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Rhoni is out of town for a week...even if she were here, can she verify anything she doesn't know first hand?

And for the record, HO and Newman are not saying this is fake...they are questioning because they have been burned before.
Thanks, Barb.
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Old 03-12-2007, 11:16 AM
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I guess I am just naive. What if the guy IS a homosexual? Do we NOT pray for him? He definately needs salvation in such a case. I don't get the 'caution compassion' thinghy at all. Can you show me examples of this in the Bible?? It's not like we are LOSING anything by praying for this man, or allowing him to post on a public forum. He wasn't asking for money, or anything, right??

Pretty simple situation, if you ask me. If you don't like the circumstances, don't interact with the poster.

We never lose when we open our hearts to the hurting, no matter WHO they be. The reward is in the GIVING, after all. *smile*

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While I understand what you are saying, I don't completely agree, as a person who's been there, done that, and hates the T-shirt.

I was a victim of a hoax for about a year, only to find out that the person didn't die, but played a mean trick, thinking it was quite funny, I'm sure.

I don't find playing on my emotions to be very funny at all, therefore I keep myself reserved in these situations.
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Old 03-12-2007, 11:19 AM
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Thad, forgive me. It's not that I don't believe that it's real, but this is the internet, and if I don't know that person in real life, I have my caution shoes on, even though I pray for the person anyway.

As I stated before, I once fell for a well-known, well-liked poster who supposedly died, even sent me an email about his death to make it more real, played on my emotions, knowing that me and a couple others from the forum were looking for a way to attend his funeral while he read our posts and said nothing. I still haven't gotten an apology to this day.

So, thanks to that person, I now have a lack of trust when it comes to these kinds of issues. I hope you and CBO can understand that.
i understand. you want to comfort the dying but as Reagan once said " Trust but verify

thing is, it seems that if a person was really dying they would do everything to draw close to the Lord not leave any gray areas.
where is this person and why haven't we heard back from them?
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Old 03-12-2007, 11:22 AM
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Do we REALLY know those with whom we interact with??
As someone who has personally met or spoken to several on this forum, yes, I can say that I know many of those I interact with on here.
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Old 03-12-2007, 11:31 AM
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i understand. you want to comfort the dying but as Reagan once said " Trust but verify

thing is, it seems that if a person was really dying they would do everything to draw close to the Lord not leave any gray areas.
where is this person and why haven't we heard back from them?
I am a caring person, indeed that is true. This is the internet, Thad. You can always believe what you hear, even when it's bad news.
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Old 03-12-2007, 11:40 AM
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Do we REALLY know those with whom we interact with??

Just some thoughts.
We don't!!!! I think maybe one person on here knows who I am! no one else knows me.. i can be anyone I want you to think I am.... i can be totally caring on here and be a jerk in person. I can lead you to believe that I love chocolate and really hate it with a passion.. so, i know the rest of whom I speak with can do the same... My point.... I don't have one! ha ha

My point is, we can't become so wrapped up in emotions that we immediately feel sorry for something we read. I am on the skeptical, and somewhat untrusting side of things when it comes to strangers.... But it kept me from being fooled and kept many from a lot of pain...jmo
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Old 03-12-2007, 12:09 PM
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The thing is, there were subtle clues in the opriginal post that could need some clarification.

If any other kind of sin was being subtly legitimized, there would be a similar outcry.
EXACTLY!
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Old 03-12-2007, 01:02 PM
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Interesting reading. Really.

Let me tell you all a little story. (Names have been change because I can’t remember everyone’s names)

My family and I moved to Dallas in 1985. If you remember the 1980’s was right at the beginning of the whole AIDS epidemic and Dallas had (and still does) quite a large gay community.

There was a man in our church in his late 20’s/early 30’s who was a really great guy. We will call him Bob. When we moved to Dallas Bob was one of the guys that came over and helped us get moved in. My older sister was already in Dallas, and her roommate (Sherry) and Bob were dating. Both were a little older than your average single person but really great people and everyone was very happy for them.

Eventually Bob asked Sherry to marry him. She agreed and the wedding day was fast approaching when Bob got sick. Let’s not forget that this was in the early days of AIDS when people were dying left and right and everyone was afraid that you could get it from shaking someone’s hand.

Bob had contracted AIDS. Before he came to the Lord, Bob was gay. Once he came to the Lord, he changed everything about himself that was unbecoming of a Christian. It was some years later that he and sherry began to date. What none of us knew was this insidious disease was lurking beneath the surface. Thank God it came to light before Sherry and Bob got married.

Let me say this clearly. Bob was a member of my church family. He was a great Christian man who lived a Godly life once he came to Christ. However, the lifestyle that he lived before becoming a Christian killed him. Such is the nature of sin. Once we found out that Bob had AIDS the church rallied around him. Like everyone else in America, we didn’t know how one could contract AIDS but we rallied around Bob. We prayed with him. We visited him in the hospital. When he came to church we were there for him and did not avoid him.

Sherry was so wonderful during that time. While they didn’t marry, she stayed with him and took care of him. Our church, a UPCI church did not abandon this guy and when he died we were there at the funeral crying. He was one of us, and is to this very day. I will see him in heaven one day.

The thing of importance here is that Bob forsook the sinful homosexual lifestyle. He became a new creature and lived as such until the day he died.

Some here have expressed reservations related to Chosenbyone’s story. The reason for those reservations is related to a lack of the above “things of importance”. I am with those looking

Others have expressed dismay in those who have reservations. I don’t get this at all. This is not a hospice people. This is a community of Apostolics. We do not condone the homosexual lifestyle as something that is accepted by God. No one is being uncaring or showing a lack of compassion by asking for clarity concerning the things that are important to all of us. Like it or not, Chosenbyone has left a lot of holes in the story. Those holes matter. That doesn’t mean anyone is uncaring, unkind, or somehow being ugly to someone who is obviously hurting.

I for one, hope we get some answers and some clarity.
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