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Old 11-06-2007, 07:15 PM
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And you say that I'm not reading your posts? How many times do you want me to quote Acts 8???

Go back a few posts. You'll see what I posted about it, including scriptures and definitions. It's quite a long post.

In addition, I made about ten posts in a row answering your posts, but you didn't address but a couple of them. I have to wonder why.
HO, Acts 8? Please, explain Acts 8 in context with this thread's subject. I will then more than happily respond back.

Still waiting for your scriptural study....
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Old 11-06-2007, 08:11 PM
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The only time in Scripture a woman went to battle it was becuse God could not find a man. Every other time it was a Man in the plan of God to lead Israel.
With all due respect, this is an inaccurate statement! This would indicate that God, who knows the end from the beginning, chose a man to go and when the man backed out he ask a woman to take his place.

If you look at the posts I have already posted, you will see that God in fact did find a man, (Barak) and that man went to battle. Deborah did not lead the army into battle but rather accompanied God's chosen man.

The point that you and some others wish to ignore is that Deborah's leadership was not militarily, (in fact you might have something to argue if that had been her only leadership appointment) rather, God chose her to be the prophetess(God's voice to the nation of Israel both men and women) and the judge (political leader) just as Gideon, Samson, and Samuel were prophets/judges, with no difference as to her call and anointing.
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Acts 8 is your whole study? That's it?
Do I need more? You haven't debunked anything yet, so start with that.
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Old 11-06-2007, 09:31 PM
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HO, Acts 8? Please, explain Acts 8 in context with this thread's subject. I will then more than happily respond back.

Still waiting for your scriptural study....
I already posted it, and this thread is too long for me to go searching for it. I posted it either yesterday or the day before, so you look for it. I think I spent enough time on posting already and you haven't answered several posts of mine where I have addressed you.
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With all due respect, this is an inaccurate statement! This would indicate that God, who knows the end from the beginning, chose a man to go and when the man backed out he ask a woman to take his place.

If you look at the posts I have already posted, you will see that God in fact did find a man, (Barak) and that man went to battle. Deborah did not lead the army into battle but rather accompanied God's chosen man.

The point that you and some others wish to ignore is that Deborah's leadership was not militarily, (in fact you might have something to argue if that had been her only leadership appointment) rather, God chose her to be the prophetess(God's voice to the nation of Israel both men and women) and the judge (political leader) just as Gideon, Samson, Samuel were prophets/judges, with no difference as to her call and anointing.
In addition, for someone to claim that God, with whom nothing is impossible, used a woman because He couldn't find a man, is preposterous as well as without Biblical proof in any way.
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I see that justice prevailed.
What does this mean?
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:22 AM
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Do I need more? You haven't debunked anything yet, so start with that.
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1 Cor 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Eph 5:22-24 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. (23) For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body. (24) Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

Col 3:18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.

1 Pet 3:1-6 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; (2) While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. (3) Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; (4) But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. (5) For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands: (6) Even as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.
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LadyRev, you do err so in the scriptures.

Do you really believe Paul’s command not to ‘touch a woman’ (See 1 Corinthians 7:1) is referring to laying hands on a woman in prayer? Jesus touched women. Was He sinning? Unreal.

Here is Thayer’s definition for “touch”:

G680 ἅπτομαι haptomai
1) to fasten one’s self to, adhere to, cling to
1a) to touch
1b) of carnal intercourse with a women or cohabitation
1c) of levitical practice of having no fellowship with heathen practices. Things not to be touched appear to be both women and certain kinds of food, so celibacy and abstinence of certain kinds of food and drink are recommended.
1d) to touch, assail anyone

And as far as Paul's singleness: since Paul said he cast a vote against the Christians (See Acts 26:10), and voting was exclusive privilege of the Sanhedrin, please, explain for all here how Paul was a member of the Sanhedrin while yet being single.

LadyRev, you are not helping your case with posts like this.
Why don't you try these for LaduyRev?
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:19 AM
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"Anything with two heads is a freak."
This saying has been around a long time and it sure is a stupid saying.

Every man and every woman has two heads or more. Thats why this saying is so stupid.

In the home there are TWO heads. The husband and wife are BOTH heads according to scripture. The husband is the head of the wife and the wife is the guide to the home. Look up the meaning for "guide" and you will see it is defined as HEAD. Children are to obey PARENTS - plural - both mom and dad, not just dad alone. Is the home a FREAK because it has two heads? I think not.

In regards to church leadership there are multiple heads (with the exception of the Jim Jones types). The pastor is not to be the only head and run the church as a dictator. Is the church a FREAK because it has multiple heads? I think not.
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LadyRev, please tell me who YOU believe elders are.
The bible is quite plain who elders are.

Elders are not always apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors or teachers.

Everyone that declares the word of the Lord is not necessarily an elder even if they are classified as an apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor or teacher.
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