The Supreme Court Quietly Gave In To Gay Marriage:

[Fionn mac Cumh]

Originally Posted by Rudy

Yes I would. what you are promoting goes against the order of creation.

Not everyone believes in creation. Also, have you ever noticed that there are same sex interactions among all mammals?

Again, it comes down to us religious folk using law makers to enforce our religious and moral beliefs on others. Thats American? Where do we stop? The funny thing is you guys would get your pants in a bunch if the Muslims in America tried to enforce their religion on us via the law making process. Just sayin. I want the govt out of my church and the church outta my govt.

[Fionn mac Cumh]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

Quote where I said that.

Originally Posted by good samaritan

In twenty or thirty years if we keep going in the direction we are going homosexuality will be just as normal as interracial marriages. I am not against interracial marriages, but when you talk about two men getting married Come on have we not got any common sense. It is really a sad day in history that we are even talking about this. I try to be a open minded person, but it is crazy that people even have to think about this. I understand that gay people have a real desire for a same sex relationships, but they should know they aren't normal. They shouldn't turn it around and make people accept it as it just another normal choice to make. The day two men have a child together without any medical operations changing their gender (I doubt that is even possible) then maybe this would be worth bringing up again.

What does that mean?

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

I am on track. You said, domestic abuse among homosexuals is high. Obviously you used that as a reason for not allowing gay marriage. Thats why I responded with the law enforcement fact. Bottom line, same sex couples and straight couples have the same relationship problems. You cant use those problems as an argument for or against same sex marriage. Show me a legit, non biblical reason, that is constitutional, against gay marriage.

I was speaking from personal experience. I don't know a lot homosexuals (but some), but they are not only unnatural they are disfunctional (I'm speaking personal relations I have not statistics). In the church we teach that the husband is the head of the home how does that work for homosexuals. I have noticed personally that there is power struggle in the structure of homosexual unions.

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

Not everyone believes in creation. Also, have you ever noticed that there are same sex interactions among all mammals?

Again, it comes down to us religious folk using law makers to enforce our religious and moral beliefs on others. Thats American? Where do we stop? The funny thing is you guys would get your pants in a bunch if the Muslims in America tried to enforce their religion on us via the law making process. Just sayin. I want the govt out of my church and the church outta my govt.

God's order for man is stated in his word. Woe to the nation that forgets God.

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

What does that mean?

It means is impossible for homosexuals to have children together, and that should be enough to let us know that we are not designed to be together in reproductive unions. Heterosexuals may some time have defected reproductive systems, but that is totally different. They are still engaging in reproductive methods their bodies were designed for. I don't mean to be graphic but your anus is not made for reproduction. You are trying to put a square in round hole and it doesn't fit. I believe in the end your way of thinking will prevail, but it still isn't right and it and it only demonstrates how perverse the world is today in their reasoning.

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I think the KKK reference was in jest. It didn't make you look racist to me.

Jesting should be funny and the comment was not. I would consider being funny at someone else's expense as bullying. And no that is not alright!

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I believe the polls indicate that just over half of all Americans polled really don't care about gay marriage.

This is sad but true. Most Americans are heterosexual and most probably feel that homosexuality is wrong no matter what religion, but we don't speak out. The only time the majority of Americans get stirred is when it deals with the economy. Why not start making more political decisions based on morality and see what that will do for us.

[Fionn mac Cumh]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

This is sad but true. Most Americans are heterosexual and most probably feel that homosexuality is wrong no matter what religion, but we don't speak out. The only time the majority of Americans get stirred is when it deals with the economy. Why not start making more political decisions based on morality and see what that will do for us.

Here lies the issue. The economy is more important. Vote for morality issues only and see where that takes us.

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

Here lies the issue. The economy is more important. Vote for morality issues only and see where that takes us.

That is were we differ. I would rather live in a nation with moral values and has less then in a nation with great riches and wicked.

For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

Here lies the issue. The economy is more important. Vote for morality issues only and see where that takes us.

I didn't say only worry about morality. Neither did I insinuate we shouldn't worry about the economy, but I believe values should be placed in the front. Do you think that we should nationally legalize prostitution (I don't know it may be legal in some places) even though it might be a way that we could produce jobs and help strengthen the economy? I hope not. What about nationally legalizing cocaine or herroine? That would help strengthen our economy wouldn't it.

Having strong moral values will in most times help the economy.