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04-11-2011, 08:59 PM
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Re: "Apostolic Christian" gets fired from Walmart.
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
If you read the court opinion you will see that it was actually someone other then the lesbian that complained about her, it also said she acknowledged that
"none of the other employees involved in the conversation commented about 'someone’s individual status, homosexuality or race,'"
In other words she was discussing it in the abstract she made it personal.
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Your not losing your freedom, in the workplace you represent the company you work for and they are responsible for your actions therefore they get to dictate your actions and statements.
Not really to hard to understand, she is in a very real sense an agent of Wal-Mart and when she is acting in that capacity they get to determine her conduct. Outside of work hours she is free to join with pastor Phelps and Westboro friends.
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Very good. 
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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04-11-2011, 09:00 PM
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Re: "Apostolic Christian" gets fired from Walmart.
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Originally Posted by OnTheFritz
Frankly, if some idiot who doesn't really know me tells me I'm going to hell for whatever reason, I would mind. I wouldn't try to get them fired, but it doesn't appear that this lady did either. I can think of a very small handful of people who could say that to me and it be constructive and not offensive. "The Lesbian" did not portray the woman it all, it was a third-party who witnessed the incident.
Also, this idea that requiring professional conduct somehow infringes on our free speech is just goofy. Take your free speech about your religious beliefs out on the street corner, and quit doing it on that company's dime.
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What if it was during a lunch break?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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04-11-2011, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
What if it was during a lunch break?
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On premises? Still an agent for Walmart? Still asked to adhere to professional conduct codes?
Personally, I have no sympathy for this type of behavior, so I'll admit I'm going to be hard-pressed to cut her slack.
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04-11-2011, 09:36 PM
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Re: "Apostolic Christian" gets fired from Walmart.
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Originally Posted by AncientPaths
On premises? Still an agent for Walmart? Still asked to adhere to professional conduct codes?
Personally, I have no sympathy for this type of behavior, so I'll admit I'm going to be hard-pressed to cut her slack.
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Assuming it was a casual conversation, not here screaming and standing over the other person as she reported.
If you were at work and a co-worker asked you if you thought a gay person can't be saved unless they repent and change, and your opinion was no they are not saved, would you answer the question?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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04-11-2011, 09:59 PM
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Re: "Apostolic Christian" gets fired from Walmart.
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Assuming it was a casual conversation, not here screaming and standing over the other person as she reported.
If you were at work and a co-worker asked you if you thought a gay person can't be saved unless they repent and change, and your opinion was no they are not saved, would you answer the question?
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I would answer like this "Who cares what I think, what does the Bible say?"
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04-11-2011, 10:05 PM
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Re: "Apostolic Christian" gets fired from Walmart.
Hmmm, "Look it up yourself"?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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04-11-2011, 10:39 PM
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Genesis 11:10
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Re: "Apostolic Christian" gets fired from Walmart.
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Hmmm, "Look it up yourself"?
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No, if they say " I don't know", than you have an opportunity to offer a Bible study.
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04-12-2011, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Assuming it was a casual conversation, not here screaming and standing over the other person as she reported.
If you were at work and a co-worker asked you if you thought a gay person can't be saved unless they repent and change, and your opinion was no they are not saved, would you answer the question?
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I would answer the question honestly, I think. And that's a whole different situation.
And I would clarify that I don't know the mind of God, but that the Bible leads me to be believe that is true, yes. And I might suggest discussing more about it after work, over coffee, etc. And leave it at that.
It would also depend on my relationship with that person. Is this the first time they've ever spoken to me? Are we friends? Acquaintances? The way it's handled depends on those factors, I think.
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04-12-2011, 08:10 AM
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Still Figuring It Out.
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Re: "Apostolic Christian" gets fired from Walmart.
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Originally Posted by AncientPaths
I would answer the question honestly, I think. And that's a whole different situation.
And I would clarify that I don't know the mind of God, but that the Bible leads me to be believe that is true, yes. And I might suggest discussing more about it after work, over coffee, etc. And leave it at that.
It would also depend on my relationship with that person. Is this the first time they've ever spoken to me? Are we friends? Acquaintances? The way it's handled depends on those factors, I think.
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That sounds like a balanced and wise approach.
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04-12-2011, 01:15 PM
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Re: "Apostolic Christian" gets fired from Walmart.
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Originally Posted by AncientPaths
I would answer the question honestly, I think. And that's a whole different situation.
And I would clarify that I don't know the mind of God, but that the Bible leads me to be believe that is true, yes. And I might suggest discussing more about it after work, over coffee, etc. And leave it at that.
It would also depend on my relationship with that person. Is this the first time they've ever spoken to me? Are we friends? Acquaintances? The way it's handled depends on those factors, I think.
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I'd still be concerned it can be a pitfall at work.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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