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07-26-2008, 10:27 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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Originally Posted by cneasttx
Are you kidding me? Mark where do you get these ideas?
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Not kidding - I know it's been discussed in the ministry before
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07-26-2008, 10:27 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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Originally Posted by PraiseHymn
As a black man I disagree. There are black men who DO have clean shaven faces just as there are black men who love wearing a mustache/beard. Has nothing to do with being feminine.
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What would you as a black man have to do with my comments about Latin American culture?
I don't see the same importance attached to facial hair in the black culture and that is why I specifically did not address that here.
Mustaches and Beards in Latin American culture are VERY important signs of masculinity.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-26-2008, 10:28 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
I tell you one thing, if I DO join a UPC church, yall better teach me how to shave without getting razor bumps cause I aint walking around with no clean shaven face and red nasty razor bumps all over my face.
I want my pastor to give me a razor and teach me a class on how to cleanly shave and NOT get razor bumps otherwise the mustache and gotee stays.
And another thing, if I became a UPCI minister, yall better teach me other alternatives to television because for 30 years I've been watching that tv and have no clue what to do if I got rid of the TV for the sake of the doctrine.
Thats all I'm saying..........
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07-26-2008, 10:28 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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Originally Posted by StMark
Yes, and I'm no expert on all of this - just telling you
what's been shared with me
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Mark do you know any black men? If so, ask one of them if they think having facial hair is part of their culture and manhood, or if it is just personal choices. And please let me know their answers.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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07-26-2008, 10:29 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
I think where we have to draw the line now is bald headed preachers who fish!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-26-2008, 10:29 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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Originally Posted by StMark
Not kidding - I know it's been discussed in the ministry before
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Well I am surprised that ministers don't have more important things to talk about then.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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07-26-2008, 10:30 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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Originally Posted by PraiseHymn
I tell you one thing, if I DO join a UPC church, yall better teach me how to shave without getting razor bumps cause I aint walking around with no clean shaven face and red nasty razor bumps all over my face.
I want my pastor to give me a razor and teach me a class on how to cleanly shave and NOT get razor bumps otherwise the mustache and gotee stays.
And another thing, if I became a UPCI minister, yall better teach me other alternatives to television because for 30 years I've been watching that tv and have no clue what to do if I got rid of the TV for the sake of the doctrine.
Thats all I'm saying..........
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ROFL!!!!!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-26-2008, 10:30 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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Originally Posted by CC1
I think where we have to draw the line now is bald headed preachers who fish!
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07-26-2008, 10:31 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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Originally Posted by cneasttx
From black men?
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Yes.
Why are you so critical?
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07-26-2008, 10:32 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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Originally Posted by PraiseHymn
I tell you one thing, if I DO join a UPC church, yall better teach me how to shave without getting razor bumps cause I aint walking around with no clean shaven face and red nasty razor bumps all over my face.
I want my pastor to give me a razor and teach me a class on how to cleanly shave and NOT get razor bumps otherwise the mustache and gotee stays.
And another thing, if I became a UPCI minister, yall better teach me other alternatives to television because for 30 years I've been watching that tv and have no clue what to do if I got rid of the TV for the sake of the doctrine.
Thats all I'm saying..........
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I know exactly what you are talking about. My husband used to wear a beard because when he shaved he had to deal with ingrown hair. Well actually I had to deal with it. As he has gotten older it has gotten easier for him to shave, as his naturally curly hair has become less curly.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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