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Old 01-10-2008, 01:21 AM
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It's amazing how that when someone takes up for a friend who has had problems in his past, everyone thinks that it will destroy them. Any organization that would destroy such a man who is trying to restore a friend is no organization I would even WANT to be a part of.

Friendship is more enduring than denominations, isn't it?
An group that would allow homosexuals on their platform is not a group I care to be a part of.
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:25 AM
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It's amazing how that when someone takes up for a friend who has had problems in his past, everyone thinks that it will destroy them. Any organization that would destroy such a man who is trying to restore a friend is no organization I would even WANT to be a part of.

Friendship is more enduring than denominations, isn't it?
acharris,

You haven't a clue of my relationship with Dave. You haven't a clue of what I'm talking about in that post. Furthermore, it has nothing to do with Dave 'taking up for a friend' but aligning himself with someone who has destroyed his reputation long ago in a very vile way.

It has nothing to do with any 'organization' but - for the record - it may be a good thing you're not in the UPC. Besides, Dave goes to many Churches that are not UPC and the people saying they won't have him back are both in and out of the organization.

Nice try. Batter out.
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:53 AM
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You know these politicians say things with meaning behind them and then when they get called on it they try to explain away the real meaning in their heart and replace it with political jargon.
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Old 01-10-2008, 02:05 AM
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You know these politicians say things with meaning behind them and then when they get called on it they try to explain away the real meaning in their heart and replace it with political jargon.
Walkby... if you are referring to me, trust me, I'm not worried about anything you can 'call me' on. I'm not real good at 'mixing' words so, where I'm concerned, you pretty much can ask for an explaination and get it.

I've nothing to prove nor hide. This forum has taken an incredibly better turn in the last few weeks. I expressed as much when rrford made his statement.

You asked. I answered. See how easy that works?
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Old 01-10-2008, 02:11 AM
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And what are you really trying to say preacher?
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Walkby... if you are referring to me, trust me, I'm not worried about anything you can 'call me' on. I'm not real good at 'mixing' words so, where I'm concerned, you pretty much can ask for an explaination and get it.

I've nothing to prove nor hide. This forum has taken an incredibly better turn in the last few weeks. I expressed as much when rrford made his statement.

You asked. I answered. See how easy that works?
Thank you, I appreciate being upfront with communication.
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:58 AM
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Is there any responsibility on LW's part to publicly denounce the homosexual lifestyle and/or make some sort of restitution for the past? (Obviously some things are beyond repair)

It seems to me that when someone is in a position of leadership, power and/or influence, they have a greater responsibility to make things right with the people they have injured, as well as with God.

Time doesn't heal all wounds.
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Old 01-10-2008, 02:07 AM
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Is there any responsibility on LW's part to publicly denounce the homosexual lifestyle and/or make some sort of restitution for the past? (Obviously some things are beyond repair)

It seems to me that when someone is in a position of leadership, power and/or influence, they have a greater responsibility to make things right with the people they have injured, as well as with God.

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Old 01-10-2008, 12:47 PM
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Is there any responsibility on LW's part to publicly denounce the homosexual lifestyle and/or make some sort of restitution for the past? (Obviously some things are beyond repair)

It seems to me that when someone is in a position of leadership, power and/or influence, they have a greater responsibility to make things right with the people they have injured, as well as with God.

Time doesn't heal all wounds.
Well said! The guy needs to quit singing in churches. I should think his name is mud forever in most people's opinion.

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Is there any responsibility on LW's part to publicly denounce the homosexual lifestyle and/or make some sort of restitution for the past? (Obviously some things are beyond repair)

It seems to me that when someone is in a position of leadership, power and/or influence, they have a greater responsibility to make things right with the people they have injured, as well as with God.

Time doesn't heal all wounds.
It sends the wrong message ( messages). If you are popular enough and bring in enough money, they we'll over look things. Too many people have been hurt from this whole situation. When they are allowed to continue, it just says that it's okay to hurt people or be a stumbling block to someone but only as long as you can still bring in the crowds $$$. jmo
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The time has come where I feel I must leave the AFF. I have enjoyed the friends I have made, but I've not enjoyed the enemies I've made. I just hope those who are so judgmental here can live a sinless life, because God will not forgive those who refuse to forgive. St. Matthew put the nail in the coffin.

However, I will be praying for those who speak the truth in love.

God bless you all,
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