Islam vs. Christianity Part 1

[Walks_in_islam]

LOL.....

Here is the factual orgin of your celebration of the "birth of christ"

The Emperor Constantine combined Christianity - a popular cult amongst the civil service, and the Sun God religion popular with the Roman army, in his ambition to create a re-united Roman Empire with himself as Emperor. His claim to see a vision of a cross on the Sun's disk could have meant something to either cult. Symbols and festivals merged into the new state religion. Christmas was taken from the Sol Invicta (Unconquered Sun) religion was supposed to be the winter solstice. The 25th March was fixed as the Spring Equinox. Both dates were not exact astronomically.

Merry Christmas!

Here is the orgin for the day you choose to have church:

The names of the days are in some cases derived from Teutonic deities or, such as in Romance languages, from Roman deities. The early Romans, around the first century, used Saturday as the first day of the week. As the worshipping of the Sun increased, the Sun's day (Sunday) advanced from position of the second day to the first day of the week (and saturday became the seventh day).

Sunday: The name comes from the Latin dies solis, meaning "sun's day": the name of a pagan Roman holiday. It is also called Dominica (Latin), the Day of God. The Romance languages, languages derived from the ancient Latin language (such as French, Spanish, and Italian), retain the root.

By fruits you are known or so I hear......

Now - on the other hand:

Lunar calendars remain in use among certain religious groups today. The Jewish calendar, which supposedly dates from 3,760 years and three months before the Christian Era (bce) is one example. The Jewish religious year begins in autumn and consists of 12 months alternating between 30 and 29 days.

Newsflash: EVERY month begins and ends with a new moon and has for, well, at least 32,000 years......before Islam, Judaism, or the self-enriching and sun-worshipping christians.


The Oldest Lunar Calendars and Earliest Constellations have been identified in cave art found in France and Germany. The astronomer-priests of these late Upper Paleolithic Cultures understood mathematical sets, and the interplay between the moon annual cycle, ecliptic, solstice and seasonal changes on earth.

The First (Lunar) Calendar –

The archaeological record's earliest data that speaks to human awareness of the stars and ‘heavens’ dates to the Aurignacian Culture of Europe, c.32,000 B.C.

Between 1964 and the early 1990s, Alexander Marshack published breakthrough research that documented the mathematical and astronomical knowledge in the Late Upper Paleolithic Cultures of Europe.

Have a good sunday....!

This particular calendar was carved out on bone. There is a nice photo.

Originally Posted by samuelofisrael

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False...m/moon_god.htm

[samuelofisrael]

DELUSIVE ISLAMIC DECEPTIONS CAPTURE A MULTITUDE OF DUPES

Summary:

Now let’s review the various defining characteristics and actions of the Muslim Jesus upon his return to the earth:

1. Jesus is said to return to the earth in the last-days near a mosque in Damascus.

2. He will arrive at a time when the Mahdi and his army will be preparing to pray.

3. He will be offered to lead the prayer by the Mahdi, but will decline in direct deference to the Mahdi who Jesus declares to be the leader of the Muslims.

4. He will then pray behind the Mahdi as a subordinate.

5. He will be a faithful Muslim

6. He will make pilgrimage to Mecca.

7. He will visit Muhammad’s grave, and salute Muhammad, whereby Muhammad will return the salute from the grave.

8. He will destroy Christianity.

9. He will repeal the jizyah tax thus causing the only option for Jews and Christians to convert to Islam or die.

10. He will establish Islamic Shari’ah (Law) throughout the entire earth.

11. He will kill the Antichrist and his followers made up largely of Jews and women.

12. He will remain on the earth for roughly forty years, during which time he will marry, have children and then die.


As we have clearly seen, the Muslim Jesus, in both his nature and actions is far different than the biblical Jesus. Rather than coming to reign as King and Messiah over all the earth from Jerusalem, Jesus instead comes to convert the world to Islam or kill those who refuse to do so. Instead of coming to save and deliver faithful Christians and Jews, he comes instead to kill and slaughter them. We will discuss a bit more about what the Bible has to say about the return of Jesus in a later chapter.

[Every effort by the master of deception and lies, the Fallen One seeks to incorporate the True One <Yeshua> into the mythology of Islam. It is necessary that the evil one emasculate and obviate the redemptive work of Yeshua in order to create this misdirection play. Yet in the machinations of evil <lies>, Islam actively participates in their own destruction. By rejection of the Only Acceptable Offering for sin, they effectively cut their own throat. It follows they were not of the Royal Seed of Abraham but children of the bond woman. Except they repent and believe the GOSPEL they have no other destiny than the Lake of Fire ... eternal destruction from the Presence of the Lord.]

http://answering-islam.org/Authors/J...slim_jesus.htm

[bbyrd009]

The only thing about that, SOI,
is that you essentially got it from
Fox news or something-not the Qur'an.

I have some "Great Pumpkin"
literature you might like, too?
I've been around Muslims for
like 25-30 years, and never
heard any of this.

So some fringe
guy, who is also a hater, wrote some
fringe yack, so what. You should not
let this become a stumbling block to you,
imo, especially since you live in a field of stones.

[samuelofisrael]

Sahih Muslim Book 041, Number 7015



2. Sideeque M.A. Veliankode, Doomsday Portents and Prophecies (Scarborough, Canada, 1999), p. 351



3. Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Number 0293, Narrated by Jabir bin ‘Abdullah



4. Veliankode, p. 350



5. Sais I-Nursi, The Rays, The Fifth Ray, p. 493, as quoted in Harun Yahya, Jesus will Return, (London, Ta Ha, 2001), p. 66



6. Ayatullah Baqir al-Sadr and Ayatullah Murtada Mutahhari, The Awaited Savior, (Karachi, Islamic Seminary Publications), prologue, p. 3



7. Hakim Mustadrak (2:651) # 4162 as related by Abu Harayra quoted in Kabbani, p. 237



8. Sahih Ashrat as-Sa’at, as quoted in Kabbani, p. 236



9. Veliankode, p. 351



10. Mufti Mohammad Shafi and Mufti Mohammad Rafi Usmani, Signs of the Qiyama and the Arrival of the Maseeh, (Karachi, Darul Ishat, 2000), p. 60



11. Kabbani, p. 237



12. Al-Sadr and Mutahhari, prologue p. 3



13. Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 37, Number 4310, Narrated by Abu Hurayrah: see also Sahih Bukhari Volume 3, Book 43, Number 656



14. Shafi, Usmani, p. 59



15. Veliankode, p. 358



16. Yahya, p.52



17. The Reliance of the Traveller and Tools of the Worshipper, a Classic Manuel of Islamic Sacred Law, Translated by Noah Ha Mim Keller, (Amana Publications, Beltsville Maryland, revised 1994) p. 603.



18. Muhammad Ali Ibn Zubair WhoIis the Evil Dajjal (the "anti-Christ")? Online article from http://www.islam.tc/prophecies/masdaj.html



19. Veliankode, p. 360, Sahih Bukhari Volume 3, Book 43, Number 656



20. Muhammad Ali Ibn Zubair, The Signs of Qiyama, translated by M. Afzal Hoosein Elias at http://members.cox.net/arshad/qiyaama.html



21. Sunan Abu Dawood, Book 37, Number 4310 Narrated by AbuHurayrah:



22. Tirmidhi, as quoted in Jesus (Isa) A.S. in Islam, and his Second Coming by Mufti A.H. Elias in http://www.islam.tc/prophecies/jesus.html

[bbyrd009]

Hey, you know people try to twist the Bible, too...
Finding an enemy where others know there is none
is quite revealing of your premises. Dordrecht is
convinced that the Russians used to be his enemies-
-or maybe he thinks they're still his enemies,
for all I know...wonder what he thinks about Russian Muslims

If God can't protect you from the Great Pumpkin,
or the Al Mahdi, or whoever, you--and I mean the
first "you," down there, as well as the second--
should be listening, imo, and not talking. Wadr.

[bbyrd009]

The only "VS" that one should juxtapose
with "Christianity" is themselves, imo.
God does not need your help for the rest, k?

[Walks_in_islam]

(laughing)

Now sam - why isnt any of this critical information written/recorded in the Quran?

Noted is your lack of reference to or from the book that Muslims are (supposed to) follow. Is this a deliberate omission or <gasp> maybe it isn't there.

Your evangelists travel back and forth across the country prophesying and teaching nonsense for show and money. Does this nonsense define who and what you are?

I noticed you sidestepped your pagan roots. Was this also deliberate or did the facts (and they are facts) stand?

Originally Posted by samuelofisrael

DELUSIVE ISLAMIC DECEPTIONS CAPTURE A MULTITUDE OF DUPES

Summary:

Now let’s review the various defining characteristics and actions of the Muslim Jesus upon his return to the earth:

1. Jesus is said to return to the earth in the last-days near a mosque in Damascus.

2. He will arrive at a time when the Mahdi and his army will be preparing to pray.

3. He will be offered to lead the prayer by the Mahdi, but will decline in direct deference to the Mahdi who Jesus declares to be the leader of the Muslims.

4. He will then pray behind the Mahdi as a subordinate.

5. He will be a faithful Muslim

6. He will make pilgrimage to Mecca.

7. He will visit Muhammad’s grave, and salute Muhammad, whereby Muhammad will return the salute from the grave.

8. He will destroy Christianity.

9. He will repeal the jizyah tax thus causing the only option for Jews and Christians to convert to Islam or die.

10. He will establish Islamic Shari’ah (Law) throughout the entire earth.

11. He will kill the Antichrist and his followers made up largely of Jews and women.

12. He will remain on the earth for roughly forty years, during which time he will marry, have children and then die.


As we have clearly seen, the Muslim Jesus, in both his nature and actions is far different than the biblical Jesus. Rather than coming to reign as King and Messiah over all the earth from Jerusalem, Jesus instead comes to convert the world to Islam or kill those who refuse to do so. Instead of coming to save and deliver faithful Christians and Jews, he comes instead to kill and slaughter them. We will discuss a bit more about what the Bible has to say about the return of Jesus in a later chapter.

[Every effort by the master of deception and lies, the Fallen One seeks to incorporate the True One <Yeshua> into the mythology of Islam. It is necessary that the evil one emasculate and obviate the redemptive work of Yeshua in order to create this misdirection play. Yet in the machinations of evil <lies>, Islam actively participates in their own destruction. By rejection of the Only Acceptable Offering for sin, they effectively cut their own throat. It follows they were not of the Royal Seed of Abraham but children of the bond woman. Except they repent and believe the GOSPEL they have no other destiny than the Lake of Fire ... eternal destruction from the Presence of the Lord.]

http://answering-islam.org/Authors/J...slim_jesus.htm

[bbyrd009]

Man, this is really depressing to me.
Our more outspoken--read "sure of themselves"--
ordained people all see boogey men, it seems. Yikes.
And completely oblivious to what this means, I guess.

[Walks_in_islam]

Samuel I believe discovered that Shiekh Google does not necessarily reflect the words in the Quran and went away to sulk about that

[Dordrecht]

http://www.knightscrusaders.com/Knig..._The_Myth.html