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02-24-2007, 09:24 PM
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In the first century, they got baptized BECAUSE of salvation... not to obtain it.
They did it as a public display to identify themselves with Christ. NOT in order to get saved.
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02-24-2007, 09:26 PM
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Jesus' Name Pentecostal
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Sam ... I'm so glad ... that I repented of my sins ...and born of God in 1980.
endued w/ power when I received the baptism of the Holy Ghost [Oct 4, 1981]
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obeyed His command to be water baptized in Jesus name [Nov. 8,1981]
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I was born again March 28, 1955.
I was baptized in Jesus' Name October 27, 1955.
I was baptized in the Holy Spirit May 20, 1956.
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Sam also known as Jim Ellis
Apostolic in doctrine
Pentecostal in experience
Charismatic in practice
Non-denominational in affiliation
Inter-denominational in fellowship
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02-24-2007, 09:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam
I was born again March 28, 1955.
I was baptized in Jesus' Name October 27, 1955.
I was baptized in the Holy Spirit May 20, 1956.
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You got me beat ... good thing it was in the right order .... those breech births can be iffy.
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02-24-2007, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Sam
Pardon and forgiveness of sins is obtained by genuine repentance, a confessing
and forsaking of sins. We are justified by faith in the Lord Jesus Christ ( Romans 5:1).
John the Baptist preached repentance, Jesus proclaimed it, and the apostles emphasized
it to both Jews and Gentiles ( Acts 2:38, 11:18, 17:30).
The word "repentance" means a change of views and purpose, change of heart,
change of mind, change of life, transformation, etc.
Jesus said, "Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish" ( Luke 13:3).
Luke 24:47 says, "And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached
in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem."
In my opinion, this repentance experience is salvation/justification/regeneration.
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Isn't this what Peter told the crowd in Acts chaoter 2 say around verse 38?
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Psa 119:165 (KJV) 165 Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.
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02-24-2007, 09:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam
I was born again March 28, 1955.
I was baptized in Jesus' Name October 27, 1955.
I was baptized in the Holy Spirit May 20, 1956.
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I was born again and water baptized in Jesus' name March 7, 1976
I was baptized in the Holy Spirit June 1, 1976
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02-24-2007, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Felicity
Then I think we're pretty much in total agreement here!
Except one other thing........ I don't think we do baptism right. I think repentance and baptism are supposed to go together like hand in glove. I think we make too much separation between the two because it's pretty plain in scripture they're very very much linked together in regard to forgiveness and repentance.
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I agree with this...
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02-24-2007, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ManOfWord
I was born again and water baptized in Jesus' name March 7, 1976
I was baptized in the Holy Spirit June 1, 1976
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The two-three month interim must've been scary??????
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02-24-2007, 09:29 PM
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and state that it will probably "shake out" that the PCI'ers will have less disagreement than the PAJC'ers.
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02-24-2007, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ManOfWord
I'm going to go out on a limb here and state that it will probably "shake out" that the PCI'ers will have less disagreement than the PAJC'ers.
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Are you implying they're an ornery bunch?
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02-24-2007, 09:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
The two-three month interim must've been scary??????
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Actually, it was. I was very worried that the rapture would take place and I wouldn't make it.
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