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06-06-2007, 12:49 PM
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I have a friend who left the UPC many years ago (over 20+) to go the 'mother church' that spawned this shoot in Toledo. She left originally because she married a man who went there. They've stayed through all of this man fiascos. I asked her why in the world she would do that. She doesn't believe for a minute that he's innocent. Her answer is that he is only the senior pastor. That he preaches probably less than anyone else there. And that she has very little, if any, contact with him. And while she freely admits that he has big problems, she also feels that there are some others on staff there who are worth staying for.
Personally, I couldn't step foot in that church and be comfortable. The news of what he did exposing himself took place right outside of where I live. Ewwww. Can you imagine listening to someone preach and wondering the whole time if he planned to leave the service and head to the park so he could................???
My neighbor and all of her family was baptized at their church. But she left when that whole exposure thing came out. Now she's going nowhere. Look at the damage that someone like that can do. What a tool in Satan's hands!
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06-06-2007, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Margies3
I have a friend who left the UPC many years ago (over 20+) to go the 'mother church' that spawned this shoot in Toledo. She left originally because she married a man who went there. They've stayed through all of this man fiascos. I asked her why in the world she would do that. She doesn't believe for a minute that he's innocent. Her answer is that he is only the senior pastor. That he preaches probably less than anyone else there. And that she has very little, if any, contact with him. And while she freely admits that he has big problems, she also feels that there are some others on staff there who are worth staying for.
Personally, I couldn't step foot in that church and be comfortable. The news of what he did exposing himself took place right outside of where I live. Ewwww. Can you imagine listening to someone preach and wondering the whole time if he planned to leave the service and head to the park so he could................???
My neighbor and all of her family was baptized at their church. But she left when that whole exposure thing came out. Now she's going nowhere. Look at the damage that someone like that can do. What a tool in Satan's hands!
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This is exactly what I am talking about.
Ichabod!!!
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06-06-2007, 08:48 PM
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This is exactly what I am talking about.
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Scary.
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06-06-2007, 08:53 PM
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Or should I say Ick-abod!!! 
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06-06-2007, 09:01 PM
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Or should I say Ick-abod!!! |
I think both will do.
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06-06-2007, 10:50 PM
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Or should I say Ick-abod!!! |
Personally, he looks like he's got a scrawny little bod to me. Like one of those guys who thinks he's so hot, while everyone else is looking at him and thinking, "Oooo chicken legs!"
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06-06-2007, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Margies3
Personally, he looks like he's got a scrawny little bod to me. Like one of those guys who thinks he's so hot, while everyone else is looking at him and thinking, "Oooo chicken legs!"
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06-06-2007, 11:27 PM
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm SAM - Kinda feeling your CHEERIOS tonight? Surely you are being sarcastic - SURELY!!!!!!!!!!
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AB,
That does not reflect my personal opinion.
I'm a one-stepper.
That was a sarcastic dig at the strict three-steppers that would not consider that pastor nor his congregation to be saved.
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06-06-2007, 11:30 PM
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Personally, he looks like he's got a scrawny little bod to me. Like one of those guys who thinks he's so hot, while everyone else is looking at him and thinking, "Oooo chicken legs!"
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no marge I think the word is hawk.
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06-06-2007, 11:35 PM
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[QUOTE=ManOfWord;143480
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I am also aware of another situation where a (UPC) pastor spent the church's building fund completely dry (1 million $$) and then mortgaged the paid off building to fund his lifestyle over the past 10yrs. Needless to say that church's dream of a new building is down the drain!
This pastor never gave full disclosure to the prople as to what happened to the money and now there is a criminal investigation. He is no longer pastor.[/QUOTE]
That was in Columbus, wasn't it?
That's still under investigation?
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