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Old 06-16-2011, 08:59 PM
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Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Two points here. God "formed" man. Doesn't say how long He took to "form" him from the dust of the earth. Forming is a process and implies a period of time to accomplish. Nothing about *poof* *abra cadabra*, *presto* here is man! It says God "formed". And after He "formed" man, man "became" a living soul. This is the same word as in Gen 1:2 renderd "was" (haw-yaw').
For something to "become" something, it must not have always been what it "became". It was either something else or incomplete prior to it "becoming" what it currently has "become". In this case, man "became" a "living soul" indicating Man was not a "living soul" prior to God breathing the breath of life allowing man to become a living soul. Before that, Man did not have a "living soul" but man was still "formed" by God from the "dust of the earth." Elements, chemicals, water etc.
yea but still doesnt mean he created a baby. He could have used the word child or baby to describe it but instead he chose man. He also formed eve pretty much the same day. eve was a abra cadabra, comming from Adams rib, and thus was formed.

God formed adam as a man and not a baby
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Old 06-16-2011, 09:04 PM
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There is ample proof of ice ages. No, the bible does not indicate it, but the Bible does not tell everything God did in His creation. My goodness, could you imagine how big the bible would be if He told us everything he did?
The "days" of creation are not a detailed account, just the general account of what he did and in the order He did it.
T-rex is not mentioned in the Bible, yet they did exist. Right?
dinos didnt get the name until 1950 but we see the word serpents.

Serpents could walk until God cursed them to crawl on their bellies.
also the bible mentions unicorns as well.

many time over science has to rebound from archeology. just like the human toothe being found in jerusalem. making it the oldest homo sapien fragment ever found. and instead of having people come out of africa as they assumed until the dating is set. again they will have to rework all that.
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Humans were created on the 6th 24 hour day I LOOKED BUT COULDN'T SCRIPTURE TO SUPPORT THAT.

This time lapse of His setting out to recondition the earth after His previous judgment begins with Genesis 1:2 .... one can then track the aging of the humans recorded to the flood ..... about 1000 years [in fact some of them had life spans close to this time value]

Let me say this: the natural man cannot understand the Bible .... one must possess His Holy Spirit in the study, if not, it simply will not happen.
I HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT. IN FACT, I AM KNOWN AS "BOWAS", BORN OF WATER AND SPIRIT.
The stand off between the Bible's account of creation and the many theories of human design like evolution (AND LIKE THE EARTH IS THE ABSOLUTE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE AND THE SUN, MOON AND STARS REVOLVE AROUND IT THAT WAS INSISTED ON BY "THE CHURCH" OF YESTERYEAR?) will continue until the Lord's closes the story, and then all will know the truth .... both those saved for eternity .... and those unsaved and lost forever
OK.
The authenticity of the claims made in scripture that the Bible is in fact the word of the living God can be proven by the study and correct rendering of the prophetic scriptures (YOUR CORRECT RENDERING I ASSUME ) .... and the Bible is the only reliable source given to humans for knowing the truth about all things that He has conveyed. AGREED!
My comments are in CAPS, not for yelling but just so they stand out.
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Old 06-16-2011, 09:09 PM
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dinos didnt get the name until 1950 but we see the word serpents.
Serpents could walk until God cursed them to crawl on their bellies.
also the bible mentions unicorns as well.

many time over science has to rebound from archeology. just like the human toothe being found in jerusalem. making it the oldest homo sapien fragment ever found. and instead of having people come out of africa as they assumed until the dating is set. again they will have to rework all that.
Serpents=Dinos? Seriously? You are grasping? Try Serpents= Snakes/vipers.
I do not think science is correct on everything, but neither do I discount everything they come up with just because it may not fit into what I had previously thought. Regardless of the subject we MUST be capable of allowing more truth to enter into our beliefs.

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Serpents=Dinos? Seriously? You are grasping? Try Serpents= Snakes/vipers.
I do not think science is correct on everything, but neither do I discount everything they come up with just because it may not fit into what I had previously thought. Regardless of the subject we MUST be capable of allowing more truth to enter into our beliefs.
have you ever viewed the inca stones?

no i wasnt grasping. i was just pointing out that snakes today either had legs and feet to walk on in the Garden which could be like a dragon to a certain extent, but once cursed was made to crawl on the bellie.
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yea but still doesnt mean he created a baby. He could have used the word child or baby to describe it but instead he chose man. He also formed eve pretty much the same day. eve was a abra cadabra, comming from Adams rib, and thus was formed.

God formed adam as a man and not a baby
Didn't say He formed a baby. Babies are formed in their mothers womb, which takes time and a mother. How long did it take God to form man from the dust of the earth which is where we all came from. Right?
Notice this verse...
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

This comes before the verse where we find God forming man and breathing into him the breath of life.

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Man(kind) is the finished product of Gods creation for man(kind), but we do find "male and female created he them", not just "Male".
Once again, you are making an assumption that Eve was created on the same day, which I assume you mean to be a 24 hour period of time.
Yes. She was created in the same day, but nothing states it was in a single 24 hour period of time, just some derived conclusions that may or may not be true.
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have you ever viewed the inca stones?

no i wasnt grasping. i was just pointing out that snakes today either had legs and feet to walk on in the Garden which could be like a dragon to a certain extent, but once cursed was made to crawl on the bellie.
Assumptions the best I can tell by you using the words, "could be" which is much of what I am claiming. Assumptions. True, I make some assumptions, but my assumptions make sense. hahah!
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Didn't say He formed a baby. Babies are formed in their mothers womb, which takes time and a mother. How long did it take God to form man from the dust of the earth which is where we all came from. Right?
Notice this verse...
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

This comes before the verse where we find God forming man and breathing into him the breath of life.

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Man(kind) is the finished product of Gods creation for man(kind), but we do find "male and female created he them", not just "Male".
Once again, you are making an assumption that Eve was created on the same day, which I assume you mean to be a 24 hour period of time.
Yes. She was created in the same day, but nothing states it was in a single 24 hour period of time, just some derived conclusions that may or may not be true.
God Formed man and he came alive the same day. I dont believe this process took time.

as with these verses if you get into the judaism study there was another woman envolved lilyth or something like that, and would eventually be the one who would reproduce the mixed breed offspring with fallen angels and such.

I believe however That God formed adam, and that God made eve from adam,
I dont believe God formed adam over a 1000 years of bio chemistry
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God Formed man and he came alive the same day. I dont believe this process took time.
WHY NOT? DOESN'T GOD USE THE NATURE HE CREATED TO ACCOMPLISH HIS WILL? NATURE DOES WHAT HE COMMANDS THEM OR DESIGNED THEM TO DO. IF HE CREATED NATURE TO ACCOMPLISH HIS CREATION OVER UNTOLD NUMBER OF YEARS, IT IS BY HIS DESIGN. WHO ARE WE TO SAY HE COULDN'T/DIDN'T DO IT THAT WAY. HIS WAYS ARE NOT OUR WAYS.
as with these verses if you get into the judaism study there was another woman envolved lilyth or something like that, and would eventually be the one who would reproduce the mixed breed offspring with fallen angels and such.
DON'T PUT MUCH STOCK IN JUDAISM AND THEIR MYSTICAL EXPLAINATIONS.

I believe however That God formed adam, and that God made eve from adam,
I dont believe God formed adam over a 1000 years of bio chemistry
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CAPS are my words.
cause he gave us days at creation in the book of genesis, and not 1000 of years.
cause on the 7th he rested. Not 7000 years on the 7th day, and thus why he had israel keep the 7th day as a sabbath to remember creation, and the exodus of egypt.

its Things like these that show Gods Power, and he didnt create nature to make his creation.

He created creation and Nature just as he said he Did, in the time frame of the Bible. I dont question His power. Im simply going off what the Bible states.

6 days of work 7th day He rested from creation.
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