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Old 01-13-2009, 07:06 PM
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I attend black churches more than I do UPC now.
No "Black" UPC churches?

I like the choir thing - but it's good to mix things up, give people some time off and introduce new singers, work in new material- then bring the choir back in the fall (or whenever) with a big celebration.
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Old 01-13-2009, 08:27 PM
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I attend black churches more than I do UPC now.
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No "Black" UPC churches?

I like the choir thing - but it's good to mix things up, give people some time off and introduce new singers, work in new material- then bring the choir back in the fall (or whenever) with a big celebration.
I agree- When our church had a choir- They took summers off- and rotated the Youth Choir with the Adult Choir- each singing every other Sunday night. It seemed to be a good situation- when we had a choir.........
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No "Black" UPC churches?

I like the choir thing - but it's good to mix things up, give people some time off and introduce new singers, work in new material- then bring the choir back in the fall (or whenever) with a big celebration.
well, sorry if that sounded bad... ummm no, not many that I know of. UPC with mixed congregations yes... but the black churches here are mainly PAW?

Mt Zion Apostolic church rocks in Indy... love that church.
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I attend Mt Zion Apostolic when I can....and Restoration Worship Center weekly... neither are UPC and both are 98% black. I love their music and worship...and no one is hung up on the standards and both baptize in Jesus name.

One of the most powerful services I have ever experienced in my life was two Sunday nights ago at Mt Zion... awesome...flat out powerful move of God. The pastor was preaching and the place just exploded.. awesome message and worship.
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Old 01-13-2009, 09:16 PM
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I attend Mt Zion Apostolic when I can....and Restoration Worship Center weekly... neither are UPC and both are 98% black. I love their music and worship...and no one is hung up on the standards and both baptize in Jesus name.

One of the most powerful services I have ever experienced in my life was two Sunday nights ago at Mt Zion... awesome...flat out powerful move of God. The pastor was preaching and the place just exploded.. awesome message and worship.
Okay, I thought you meant there were not any black churches that were UPCI.
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Okay, I thought you meant there were not any black churches that were UPCI.
I don't know any around here... but I don't know about all churches.
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Let me start this thread by saying I know I am an old fogey! I got the Holy Ghost in 1970 at the age of 19 years old. One of the first places I was used in church was the choir. I enjoyed singing in our church choir for about 25 years. I really loved singing in choir and being used in this capacity. I have not sung in choir for about 10 years or more. I dropped out when my work demands became such that I could not devote the time to it I needed to.
Anyway - The church I attend now for the past 3 years, has had a thriving choir of about 75 to 100 members. Last year our music director left to pastor a church in another state. After he left, - he was replaced by a part time music person- the choir sang less often, and our music went more and more to the "new style" of church music. We were sad not to sing the old songs occasionally, and missed "specials" being sung in church.

Our church always does a Christmas musical- in early November, I went to church and the platform was under construction for the musical. Part of that construction was to remove the choir platform and all of the chairs. I thought - its just part of the musical- ----- Well because of a family illness - I did not get to attend church but once during December- the platform was still under construction. Yesterday we attended church for the first time after the holidays- the platform is finished- there is no platform for the choir and the choir chairs are gone- I am assuming that the choir in our church has died and been given a proper burial. It makes me sad- I think the choir is a wonderful place for people to be used in the work of God. Is this typical of other churches? Is this a trend sweeping churchdom?
What I miss are those annointed services that featured the choir.

There is something authentic about a regular saint in the choir and the spirit of the Lord moves on them.

They are not like the music team or the pastor who that is their thing.

They are truely authentic and folks in the house just catch onto the move of God and the house just go crazy.

I remember some Sunday night services back in the 1980's at Parkway Apostolic Church in Oak Creek, Wisconsin.

Where we had a 100 voice choir.

I remember being in the choir and feeling the presence of God so thick you could hardly sing.

THe choir was directed by my mother in law Sis Lois Jordan Tamel.

She is the sister of Nancy Jordan Scisco and Joanne Jordan Lewis.

My sister Donna Eckstadt-Trapani would sing the solo in the songs and just rock the house.

I know we sometimes talk about yesteryear.

But those were awesome times and great songs.

There was a song called "Joy".

Whenever we sang that song it was goint to be a 30 minute praise...

Thanks for reminding me of some great times...

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It's hard enough to get all the praise singers to practice let alone a large choir
There is the problem right there....commitment is lacking today.

We have not had a choir for over 10 years.

As a worship leader i do not miss it.

We have used praise singers for 10 years or so. Praise singers encourage all the congregation to sing instead of just those in the choir singing.

We find distance to the church being a big problem today.
I am 30 minutes away. My trumpet and flute 45 miles away.

My drummer just moved to OK. ;-(

Some of my praise singers are over 30 miles from church.

We do our practice prior to church and monthly have a practice immediatly after church.

I myuch prefer vertical worship songs rather than the over repeated verses of most choir songs.

As for "specials", I call them NCP's (non congregation participation)

One person sings while 100 sit and listen. We do a few "specials" 6 to 12 a year.
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