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Old 11-14-2007, 04:38 PM
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it's still comes from paganism!
Do you celebrate your birthday? If so, where does that practice come from?

Did you have a traditional wedding ceremony? If so, are you sure it doesn't have some pagan influence?

Do you do anything at all that stems from paganism?

To say that we shouldn't celebrate the birth of Christ just because pagans celebrate it too is akin to saying that we shouldn't speak in tongues, because pagans speak in tongues too. If you don't believe me, just watch the National Geographic channel when they're showing the rites of passage into manhood in some of the African tribes.

Don't dance in church, because pagans dance in the ballrooms.

Don't shout with the voice of triumph, because pagans shout at ball games.

Don't fly your American flag in support of our troops, because pagans fly an American flag.

Come on, get real.
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:49 PM
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but why use past symbols of satan and pagan worship to celebrate his birth??
Almost everything you do is pagon. They used singing as way of bring forth spirits.

Saul called for David to play his harp to calm his spirit.

It's like not buying products because you hear they support something you are against.

Everything you buy supports one of those organizations somewhere down the stream.

Maybe we should do like some churches and get that pagon music out of our churches.
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:51 PM
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I don't have a Christmas tree due to personal convictions ,but I do exchange gifts,I would suggest a person study the origins of things and then let the Holy Ghost be their guide.
I'm not out to throw my brothers and sisters over fiery pits.
But I enjoy the food and family time during the Holiday season and I enjoy the music as well.
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:51 PM
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Do you celebrate your birthday? If so, where does that practice come from?

Did you have a traditional wedding ceremony? If so, are you sure it doesn't have some pagan influence?

Do you do anything at all that stems from paganism?

To say that we shouldn't celebrate the birth of Christ just because pagans celebrate it too is akin to saying that we shouldn't speak in tongues, because pagans speak in tongues too. If you don't believe me, just watch the National Geographic channel when they're showing the rites of passage into manhood in some of the African tribes.

Don't dance in church, because pagans dance in the ballrooms.

Don't shout with the voice of triumph, because pagans shout at ball games.

Don't fly your American flag in support of our troops, because pagans fly an American flag.

Come on, get real.
Unless you are Jehova Witness.
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:51 PM
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Almost everything you do is pagon. They used singing as way of bring forth spirits.

Saul called for David to play his harp to calm his spirit.

It's like not buying products because you hear they support something you are against.

Everything you buy supports one of those organizations somewhere down the stream.

Maybe we should do like some churches and get that pagon music out of our churches.
BINGO! Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner!

I'm not saying this is the case with anyone on this forum, but unfortunately, many think that their holiness is defined by how much they're against.

And, if you can't find enough to be against to make yourself look more pure, make something up. Stretch the scripture. Misinterpret it.

Remind you of anyone in Jesus' day?
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:54 PM
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I have personal convictions but I follow them because of my realtionship with Christ ,I'm not out to out Holy my brothers or sisters or to degrade them.
We all pale when we compare ourselves to Jesus Christ.
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:56 PM
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I have personal convictions but I follow them because of my realtionship with Christ ,I'm not out to out Holy my brothers or sisters or to degrade them.
We all pale when we compare ourselves to Jesus Christ.
I respect this attitude, Bro. Scott..........this is how it should be.

I'm not saying that anyone on here exhibits anything differently, I don't know most of the folks here. But, I've dealt with some in real life who aren't as gracious, lol.
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:59 PM
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As far as a pharisee spirit this ain't me I am what I am by the grace of God.
The Holiness I claim is by the grace of God and a imputation of righteousness.
BTW Pastor Moslby says hello Bro.Phelps.
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Old 11-14-2007, 05:01 PM
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As far as a pharisee spirit this ain't me I am what I am by the grace of God.
The Holiness I claim is by the grace of God and a imputation of righteousness.
BTW Pastor Moslby says hello Bro.Phelps.
Great then you are invited to our church's Christmas program.My daughter has a solo.Invite your mom.
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Old 11-14-2007, 05:01 PM
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As far as a pharisee spirit this ain't me I am what I am by the grace of God.
The Holiness I claim is by the grace of God and a imputation of righteousness.
BTW Pastor Moslby says hello Bro.Phelps.
Well, tell the good Dr. I said hello in return!

How are things in Mississippi?
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