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Old 01-03-2011, 10:09 AM
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My late pastor father made a statement that has become much quoted
in our family. "Time changes everything, except those things which are
eternal". Rev. Robert L. Blakey

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What would we do if God went about changing His mind? I'm grateful He hasn't changed His mind about my family and I. He remains steadfast in His love and mercy towards us even though there is absolutley nothing to merit it. Nothing.
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Old 01-03-2011, 10:22 AM
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Yeah, I know, you already knew that! Maybe so, but the thing is I did not.

Have you changed your beliefs on something you very adamantly were convinced of in days gone by? Wow! I know I have. It seems life has a way humbling a person. It could be theology or otherwise but it seems we are all on a journey that is shaped by our life experiences - including of course, our experience with the Lord Jesus.

Just the thought... Just knowing I am not what I will be in ten or twenty years is humbling to me. Not that I desire to be fluid in my beliefs or throw caution to the wind at all. But I know that even theologians and scholars are growing, learning and even changing beliefs on things throughout their lifetime.

Help me Lord to stay sober minded. In 2011 May I become humble knowing my weakness is great. May I refrain from judging my fellow man harshly. Amen.
Amen!! I now realize what the Lord meant in telling us to pray "Lead me not into temptation." Following that verse we read there is a broad way that LEADETH to destruction. I think He meant for us to pray to never leave the narrow way. Correct me when I am wrong. Some feel they are betraying their church if they think to pray like that. But we are serving God and need to be aware we may be wrong about something. Something is wrong if we are not being corrected IN SOMETHING.
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Old 01-03-2011, 12:24 PM
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Yeah, I know, you already knew that! Maybe so, but the thing is I did not.

Have you changed your beliefs on something you very adamantly were convinced of in days gone by? Wow! I know I have. It seems life has a way humbling a person. It could be theology or otherwise but it seems we are all on a journey that is shaped by our life experiences - including of course, our experience with the Lord Jesus.

Just the thought... Just knowing I am not what I will be in ten or twenty years is humbling to me. Not that I desire to be fluid in my beliefs or throw caution to the wind at all. But I know that even theologians and scholars are growing, learning and even changing beliefs on things throughout their lifetime.

Help me Lord to stay sober minded. In 2011 May I become humble knowing my weakness is great. May I refrain from judging my fellow man harshly. Amen.
You changed your avatar. Change is good.
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Old 01-03-2011, 12:32 PM
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You changed your avatar. Change is good.
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Old 01-03-2011, 12:51 PM
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So, whut zactly were you wrong about? Guess that's a secret, huh?
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So, whut zactly were you wrong about? Guess that's a secret, huh?
Well the thread title would lead one to think I was going to unveil a big change I guess... But that was not really the intent.

I just know I have changed my mind, beliefs, convictions many many times in the last 25 years. Some change was based on study and some based on life experiences. It stands to reason I will change even more, therefore I want to walk in humility, even when I disagree strongly with others.

I know and realize there but for the grace of God go I... or perhaps even more humbling... there because of the Grace of God go I in a few years...
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Well the thread title would lead one to think I was going to unveil a big change I guess... But that was not really the intent.

I just know I have changed my mind, beliefs, convictions many many times in the last 25 years. Some change was based on study and some based on life experiences. It stands to reason I will change even more, therefore I want to walk in humility, even when I disagree strongly with others.

I know and realize there but for the grace of God go I... or perhaps even more humbling... there because of the Grace of God go I in a few years...
I respect your choice to keep it private. I just had to give you a little bit of a hard time about it.

I think there is much to think about when changing some views. Mostly how it will affect your immediate family and how the paradigm can move so not to run anybody over.

I think, in this sense, church always becomes more traditional than dogmatic. For me, since I was pretty much free anyway, it's easier not to go anywhere, but sometime I might like to plug in to a church that is more of a social club.

I went with my Mom to her church for Christmas Eve. My Mom has faithfully attended this church for many, many years. As a matter of fact, I was raised in it. It was very comforting to just be there and see familiar faces and know that these people have been faithful for so long. But as I read the back of the missellette, I read where it said that unless you were Catholic, you could not take communion without permission, it made me feel like an outsider. My mother would never make me feel that way and probably would encourage me to take it anyway, which I didn't. Knowing religious politics, it dampened by enthusiasm although I'm still glad I went. My poor mother trudges to church alone week after week, year after year. I've even thought about offering to go with her maybe once a month and then go for coffee afterwards. It seems like a nice quaint idea....at least until I read the back of misselettes.
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Amen.

What would we do if God went about changing His mind? I'm grateful He hasn't changed His mind about my family and I. He remains steadfast in His love and mercy towards us even though there is absolutley nothing to merit it. Nothing.
Never truer words spoken.

If we only knew a small portion of his love toward us, we surely come to understand in our self loathing, that we in no wise have merited the least of his favor.

When we come to abhor sin and loathe the world as to never be dull to the shock and horror of it, then to see the goodness of God, we quickly understand how it is that the "GOODNESS of God leadeth men to REPENTANCE."

GOOD GRIEF! I repent all the time and often find myself REPENTING FOR OTHERS TOO.

OK, so I am a bit strange.
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OK just for you ILG... I'll give you one example of how I have changed my thoughts.

When I first became Pentecostal (switching from conservative Mennonite) I very much bought into the Pentecostal mode of prayer and worship. I inwardly scoffed at the idea of "silent prayer" which my family held as sacred and primarily practiced. I figured, one must not only pray out loud, but there was much greater results when many worshipers prayed very loud at the same time. Surely the level of fervency spoke to their power and standing with God, I reasoned.


Long story short, I no longer believe this. I actually prefer a more orderly approach where meaningful thought is given to what said. I even practice "silent prayer" very often now.
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OK just for you ILG... I'll give you one example of how I have changed my thoughts.

When I first became Pentecostal (switching from conservative Mennonite) I very much bought into Pentecostal mode of prayer and worship. I inwardly scoffed at the idea of "silent prayer" which my family held as sacred and primarily practiced. I figured, one must not only pray out loud, but there was much greater when many worshipers prayed very loud at the same time. Surely the level of fervency spoke to their power and standing with God, I reasoned.


Long story short, I no longer believe this. I actually prefer a more orderly approach where meaningful thought is given to what said. I even practice "silent prayer" very often now.
Though I wasn't raised with silent prayer I find that God speaks to me when I pray silently in a way that never happens in a loud noisy group.
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