DKBs 1st Test: Will He Uphold Manual w/ Craft?

[dizzyde]

Originally Posted by pelathais

NO! He will NOT rest until everyone, even you Crackerjack, are as Apostolic as Daniel is.

Besides, the UPC does have that statement - "No double dipping org-wise." Do they mean what they say or not? Is this just to be another "forgotten clause" like to statements in the Manuel on Conscientious Scruples?

Hey!! When did "Pel" become "Pel" again???

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by dizzyde

Hey!! When did "Pel" become "Pel" again???

This morning!

[dizzyde]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

This morning!

I'm glad, I always felt strange about the "new" name! LOL!!!

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by dizzyde

I'm glad, I always felt strange about the "new" name! LOL!!!

I kept forgetting who Bro.David was!!!

[dizzyde]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I kept forgetting who Bro.David was!!!

Me too!!!

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by dizzyde

Hey!! When did "Pel" become "Pel" again???

Originally Posted by rgcraig

This morning!

The drugs wore off.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by pelathais

The drugs wore off.

- hilarious!!!

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by pelathais

NO! He will NOT rest until everyone, even you Crackerjack, are as Apostolic as Daniel is.

Besides, the UPC does have that statement - "No double dipping org-wise." Do they mean what they say or not? Is this just to be another "forgotten clause" like to statements in the Manuel on Conscientious Scruples?

Did you miss what I wrote, can someone with UPC license not be involve with another organization in a "director" type role? I guarantee that restriction would not be enforceable.

[DAII]

Originally Posted by pelathais

No, "Sainthood" is for the common man in the UPC and other related organizations.

What about the many other men who are listed as holding UPC credentials and simultaneously sit on the WPF's councils? I know two men personally who do so, though I have not spoken to either in years. One had posted (I think) on AFF or the earlier incarnations of this bulletin board.

I was told that this guy was just waiting for the DS to "come after him." Unfortunately, the DS never seemed to get around to even acknowledging the guy's dual memberships before he retired. The new DS doesn't really seem to care about the situation very much either.

I think that's one of the biggest frustrations of the WWPF - that they aren't the thorn in the side that they thought they'd be. Many of the WeDeclare.com crowd that went along with the WPF - even if just in spirit - seem to really desire to be "persecuted" and thus have their "tough stands" validated. Many of the WPF were never really known for their anti-TV stands before or their tough holiness standards. They just seemed to be courting the guys who were too "holy" to ever really fellowship with anyone.

It's just hard for me (and probably for most people) to get really concerned about guys taking a "tough stand" on chopsticks in women's hair and bifurcated jammie bottoms; so we look for another motive behind these guy's behavior, and that's when they get their own bifurcated BVDs in a bunch. They all aspire to their own class of knighthood - it validates and motivates the constant bickering over inane standards issues.

Guys like TC just never really came across like that to me before. Maybe he thinks he has to make up for "oversights" in his past? Dunno. But if he and all of the others could find an organization that allows for our own shortcomings to be justified by Someone greater than ourselves, then none of us would have to be constantly trying to be "good enough" or "holy enough."

Are you suggesting that taking action would play into their martyrdom?

It would seem TLC has experienced and benefited from lots of grace, huh?

[DAII]

Originally Posted by crakjak

Did you miss what I wrote, can someone with UPC license not be involve with another organization in a "director" type role? I guarantee that restriction would not be enforceable.

By definition, Crak, a member of the General Council is a member of the WPF.

Their rules.