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Old 03-23-2007, 12:12 PM
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I don't think she feels that way, she is just provoking us to thought-I think.
Correct-a-mundo!!
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Old 03-23-2007, 12:17 PM
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I agree to a point. I think people who are still "babes in Christ" should be taught and mentored in one place. Analogy might be someone who goes through elementary, middle school, high school, college and then off into the world to make their own way. We all keep learning but we don't need the same level of "tending" through these stages.

The saints are called to minister. Can they be called to minister from place to place rather than stay in one place without being a "minister" part of 5 fold ministry?
I don't think so, I say that because of this, "who will they be accountable too?"

The ones I have seen "usually" have made shipwreck of both themselves, and the faith they bear!
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Correct-a-mundo!!
Is that like "TELA-MUNDOOO?"
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Because they feel a personal duty to put you into a little box and make you a perfect carbon copy saint and they can't do that if they don't have continual control of you? After all, what will happen if you actually hear something preached contrary to what the Pastor thinks? You might actually have to think for yourself!!!! Oh No! What is to become of us all???
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hopping around like that... that's like playin checkers.. lol.. anyway.. why jump around? unless you are an evangelist.. I see no reason why someone should jump around so frequently...
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Okay, put it this way.
Say you go to your Church and sing worship choruses and take up and offering.
It comes time for the preaching but there is no Pastor or Preacher for the service.

Now we expect Faithfulness in leadership, why not in saints?

Faithfulness is first to God, then to the Church (his body), then of course to the lost who we are all called to Minister unto.

In Paul's example in Corithians there are a few that speak (prophecy). Is there only one preacher in a local body? Does it have to be a preacher to prophecy?

Romans 14:

How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
1Cr 14:27 If any man speak in an [unknown] tongue, [let it be] by two, or at the most [by] three, and [that] by course; and let one interpret.
1Cr 14:28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.
1Cr 14:29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
1Cr 14:30 If [any thing] be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.
1Cr 14:31 For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.
1Cr 14:32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
1Cr 14:33 For God is not [the author] of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
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Because they feel a personal duty to put you into a little box and make you a perfect carbon copy saint and they can't do that if they don't have continual control of you? After all, what will happen if you actually hear something preached contrary to what the Pastor thinks? You might actually have to think for yourself!!!! Oh No! What is to become of us all???
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I believe that too. But how big is the group? What is the "local body"?

What does being "connected to the body" mean? Does it have to be the same people every week?

the only real answer here is that to be connected, you have to have a connection. you cannot be connected if you see someone once every 5 weeks. period.
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I don't think so, I say that because of this, "who will they be accountable too?"

The ones I have seen "usually" have made shipwreck of both themselves, and the faith they bear!
Who are the 5-fold ministry accountable to? Can the saint be accountable to someone in the 5-fold ministry without being in th same place as the minister?
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the only real answer here is that to be connected, you have to have a connection. you cannot be connected if you see someone once every 5 weeks. period.
So you have to see them once a week? or twice a week? or how many times a week to be connected?
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