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10-29-2007, 10:50 PM
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uncharismatic conservative maverick
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Um ... where do you want it ???? BE you are denying what is plain in God's Word .... simply because it won't fit your paradigm.
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Exactly what is it that I'm denying Dan? The reference that I used is not "extra-biblical" as you would so eloquently put it. I do not believe that every refernce made concerning wine was with alcohol.
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10-29-2007, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Sure Lady B.
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I like that better than Dour.
And what does "Sure" mean? Sure what? Sure, you're right? Sure, I'm right? Sure, I do have to insert nefarious.... 
Don't pick on me too much. I'm helping Hannah with homework, and my brain is very tired. Apparently the old tried and true methods of solving equations aren't good enough anymore. 
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To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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10-29-2007, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
Okay sis, I did a careful study John 2:9-10 (hence the reason for taking my time getting back to you)
9 When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made WINE, and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew) the governor of the feast called the bridegroom,
10 And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good WINE; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good WINE until now.
I had learned this years ago, but I needed to brush up on what I've learned. The word WINE from this passage does not indicate an alcoholic drink as most people would assume. The word WINE from these verses is derived from the Greek word "Oinos" which means fruit of the vine and not necessarily an alcoholic drink. I really do not think that Jesus would 'produce' something that people would cause others to get drunk, seeing how it is a sin to be drunk. Also understand that this passage does not imply anything that involves fermentation, as I have said "Oinos" simply means friut of the vine. |
*bump for Dan*
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10-29-2007, 10:52 PM
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the ultracon
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Originally Posted by freeatlast
Matt , the SAME greek word for wine is used in ohn where Jesus turned the water into wine and also in 1 Tim 2;3 not given to much wine
and also in 1 Tim 5:23 where Timothy was instructed by Paul to take a "liitle" wine and in many other scriptures...it's the same word for wine in all those scriptures.
sweet wine ?? come on. |
Then lets go to the winebibber...same exact root word for wine, A winebibber was one who had an overflow of wine (what you call sweetwine matthew) and became drunk.
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10-29-2007, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
I like that better than Dour.
And what does "Sure" mean? Sure what? Sure, you're right? Sure, I'm right? Sure, I do have to insert nefarious....
Don't pick on me too much. I'm helping Hannah with homework, and my brain is very tired. Apparently the old tried and true methods of solving equations aren't good enough anymore. |
Maybe you're just annoyed and dour? I say skip the hw assignment .... put you little one to sleep ... tell her teacher she'll make it up .... IT'S LATE.
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10-29-2007, 10:56 PM
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Hello AFF!
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UPCI/ Tv........... and now a message from our sponsers.
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10-29-2007, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
*bump for Dan*
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BE ... when you get a chance visit ... OINOS.COM .... lol.
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10-29-2007, 11:00 PM
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uncharismatic conservative maverick
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
BE ... when you get a chance visit ... OINOS.COM .... lol. |
Good night Dan! Love ya and God bless. Sheeeesh!
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10-29-2007, 11:05 PM
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the ultracon
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Maybe you folks that deny there was any alcohol in bible wine could tell us how much communion "sweet wine" the Corinthians had to drink for Paul to tell them they were drunken in 1 Cor 11:21
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10-29-2007, 11:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by freeatlast
Maybe you folks that deny there was any alcohol in bible wine could tell us how much communion "sweet wine" the Corinthians had to drink for Paul to tell them they were drunken in 1 Cor 11:21 |
No matter what you say .... Free ... it won't register .... scripture will not suffice.
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