Islam: A Religion of Lies...

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Pliny

LOL! No wonder you are a muslim. They get whipped and call it a "victory" ROTFL. Just like Hezbollah! LOL

You have demonstrated zero, nada, nothing.

Anyway, you have never demonstrated anyone practiced pedophilia prior to your deity and prophet. You brought up some ancient Rabbi who said it was okay. BTW you failed to document the tractate that it was supposed to come from. I could care less because that does NOT represent the God of the Bible. Tell ya what. Why don't you show us where in the BIBLE God says pedophilia is okay?

All you have tried to do, poorly I might add, is to bring up a false dichotomy by attempting a false moral equivalence. One more time just for you. YOUR deity has made pedophilia specifically okay. Your "holy man" practiced pedophilia and you support and defend this heinous act. Shame on you! Shame on your not so "holy man" and shame on your deity.

Your whole argument is so flawed that even a cave man can discern it. To bad you can't.
When will you repent?
James was right:
(Jas 2:19 KJV) Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

Is Jas 2:19 ("queen" JV) the missing verse that defines the sin?

Once again:

Mohammad and Aisha's marriage was arranged when she was 6. It was consummated at 9. They stayed married until he died.

Such practices followed traditions that go back to the beginning of time and were certainly followed long afterwards.

Yes, an ancient rabbi acknowledged the practice.

Church Jurists acknowledged the practice

In the 12th century, the jurist Gratian, an influential founder of Canon law in medieval Europe, accepted the age of puberty for marriage to be between 12 and 14, but acknowledged consent to be meaningful if the children were older than 7. There were authorities with a claim that consent could take place earlier. Marriage would then be valid as long as neither of the two parties annulled the marital agreement before reaching puberty, or if they had already consummated the marriage. It should be noted that Judges honored marriages based on mutual consent at ages younger than 7, in spite of what Gratian had said; there are recorded marriages of 2 and 3 year olds

Early American colonists acknowledged the practice

The American colonies followed the English tradition, but the law was more of a guide. For example, Mary Hathaway (Virginia, 1689) was only 9 when she was married to William Williams. Sir Edward Coke (England, 17th century) made it clear that "the marriage of girls under 12 was normal, and the age at which a girl who was a wife was eligible for a dower from her husband's estate was 9 even though her husband be only four years old".

You have demonstrated no sin and have won nothing here. My "argument" as you call it is simply a series of written references from various times in history from various authors and stands as written. No change, no way to rewrite it, no way to refute it, certainly not a single word in the bible, leaving you with nothing but insults, comparisons to me to people far away who I have nothing to do with (I'm a Texan dude), and various other rants unaccompanied by nothing but than your opinion and inflated sense of self-righteousness to support them.

I generously offered you the chance to expose this hideous sin by bringing some, any christian writing (minus the bible) and you have declined to do this as well. In over 2000 years of Christian practices to draw from you have come up dry. Nobody wins or loses here. Your beliefs condemn all of history, and you have only succeeded in convincing yourself that you are not only better than me, you are better than any person who has ever lived.

In this, you have experienced the typical christian "victory" and have "vanquished" your "enemy" with a carefully crafted "argument" that makes you feel "good" and defines yourself as a "better person" than anyone else who has ever lived in all of history. Do you to kindly savor this, wallow in it, engulf yourself in it. I crown you as the king of "better man".

NOTE: Pedophilia is what happens in your sunday schools. We were discussing marriage, in this case a "death til us part" marriage and there IS actually a difference.

You probably don't see that either though. Have a nice day, oh righteous one. Though you cannot rewrite history you are certainly (more than) qualified to write your OWN bible - LOL

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by thephnxman

Indeed, God is ONE, and there is no other. He IS the God of Abraham, and of Isaac,
and of Jacob. He is the ONE that shepherded Moses for forty years; who revealed His
NAME to Moses and delivered promises hidden in the Law, to him; and who "...in the
fullness of time..." sent His son, Jesus, to preach all truth and righteousness.

I am wondering why you do not have enough here to set and define what is sin, what is not sin, and use as a guide for your lives without developing "extra-biblical" sins to judge others on.

It says enough that you must venture (far) outside the bible to judge the actions of the Prophet.

[shazeep]

they are trolls, WII, why bother. Hating is what they do best.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by shazeep

they are trolls, WII, why bother. Hating is what they do best.

Imagine how happy we all could be if we all could feel so righteous. What is that like I wonder. Though trolls, this thing alone makes them mildly interesting.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Pliny

Bumping this for the resident muslim who hates truth.

Does islam and its deity allow prepubescent girls to marry? The FACTS are what they are.
Instead of repenting from the evil he would rather defend it. Quite revealing, the deception he is under.
He refuses to condemn the practice instead he defends it.
Shame on him. Shame on such an evil religious system. Shame on his "holy man" for participating in pedophilia. Shame on his deity for being so evil and corrupt.

You declare God evil and corrupt? That section of hell, though probably crowded, always has room for one more.

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

I am wondering why you do not have enough here to set and define what is sin, what is not sin, and use as a guide for your lives without developing "extra-biblical" sins to judge others on.
It says enough that you must venture (far) outside the bible to judge the actions of the Prophet.

Is that some kind of "extra-heretical" joke?

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by thephnxman

Is that some kind of "extra-heretical" joke?

This is the internet.

If I post a picture of dog doo, some will find it disgusting and some will find it spiritual.

If you find the referenced post to be funny, then you may from that conclude that it is a joke. In this, as with nearly everything else, you are free to decide for yourself.

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

This is the internet.
If I post a picture of dog doo, some will find it disgusting and some will find it spiritual.
If you find the referenced post to be funny, then you may from that conclude that it is a joke. In this, as with nearly everything else, you are free to decide for yourself.

Your soul is no joking matter.

[shazeep]

and by extension, others' souls are no scoffing matter.

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Imagine how happy we all could be if we all could feel so righteous. What is that like I wonder. Though trolls, this thing alone makes them mildly interesting.

well, it takes programming from birth, i guess--which we get plenty of here. Looks like we're about to get a harvest, tho...

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

This is the internet.

If I post a picture of dog doo, some will find it disgusting and some will find it spiritual.

If you find the referenced post to be funny, then you may from that conclude that it is a joke. In this, as with nearly everything else, you are free to decide for yourself.

amen--oh unless you are different from us in any way, in which case you must first come to our--and Hitler's--God. Yikes.