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Old 03-03-2007, 05:45 PM
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My friend, I think many peopple "view" God, thru glasses that have been smudged by doctrinally impure proclamations of who He is.

How can people proclaim they "know Jesus or know God" when they their "picture" of who God is is so out of focus.
We ALL wear glasses.
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Everyone has 'bias'. Impossibles not to. But that doesn't mean Truth cannot be found or that it's not important. Obviously the Scriptures assume and declare that it is a must! As God is the all perfect one anything less, concerning Him, is sin.
Agreed ... that's why we need the Holy Ghost ... It can be found ... but if God is Truth ... is truth finite? I think what Pianoman is saying that we know of God is not only measured by our grasp of the truths we find in the Book.

Please don't misinterpret or mischaracterize ... but you would no more than I that everyone says they've got the TRUTH ...

Yes he has revealed himself clearly enough to save us ... but there are things we learn about God outside the Book, are there not? ... take creation for example ... of course what we learn about Him will line up with the Book ... God does not contradict himself.
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We ALL wear glasses.
Oh Ok. We can see ALL see clearly then.
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Doctrinal purity is the foundational teachings of Heb.6:1-3 is in tact. That is the beginning not the end but if they are incorrect in the beginning or foundation the house has to be off.
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Old 03-03-2007, 05:57 PM
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Elder, don't you know that doctrine doesn't matter anymore?
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Elder, don't you know that doctrine doesn't matter anymore?
Matty boy, You are spreading false witness against me everytime you put words in my mouth like this statement. I do not like it. It is offensive to me, and to many others as well.

Sound familiar ....
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Old 03-03-2007, 05:59 PM
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Doctrinal purity is the foundational teachings of Heb.6:1-3 is in tact. That is the beginning not the end but if they are incorrect in the beginning or foundation the house has to be off.
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It will ALWAYS have bias and there is no way to keep the bias out. I have been around MANY pentecostal circles, paradigms, viewpoints, doctrines etc. I have "bought" into no one's viewpoint completely. I have job to do and that is to feed the flock the Lord has made me an overseer of.

No denomination or group is going to tell me how to pastor NLC. It is none of their business. If I get out of line, NLC has guidelines to follow and I can be removed.

Talk about doctrinal "purity," we can't even get agreement on the new birth from card carrying members of the UPCI. The only way for doctrinal "purity" to prevail is for the biggest voting block to define it and then kick those out who don't agree with it.

Oh, wait, that has been tried and it still didn't work!
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Old 03-03-2007, 06:13 PM
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Matty boy, You are spreading false witness against me everytime you put words in my mouth like this statement. I do not like it. It is offensive to me, and to many others as well.

Sound familiar ....
Last time I checked, I did not quote you, or respond to your post, and my post was just a general post addressed to Bro Epley. You on the other hand, quoted my post, and then put words in my mouth.

Big difference.
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Old 03-03-2007, 06:15 PM
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Last time I checked, I did not quote you, or respond to your post, and my post was just a general post addressed to Bro Epley. You on the other hand, quoted my post, and then put words in my mouth.

Big difference.
Matt ... you were responding to all those in this thread that don't think like you ...
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