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Old 06-28-2016, 09:38 AM
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Re: Unbound: The Conscience of a Republican Delega

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Even with every alleged flaw you mentioned in Trump, I am not going to condone freeing the delegates to put Romney, Jeb or Kasich in as the nominee because that is exactly what they will do. If you think Cruz will win you are the one who is being conned.
It isn't about which candidate can win or lose. This isn't about Ted Cruz.

In order to begin fixing the system from being further broken, we need to make sure that the Delegates are always unbound. Read the pdf.

This is important and it is the right time to get it done.

And, BTW, talk about violating finance laws, which the Corleone, er, Trump family don't pay attention to:

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Old 06-28-2016, 09:51 AM
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PO - do you wish to free the electoral college delegates, as well?
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I can remember that some did not vote for Reagan because he wasn't holy enough.
I believe he was the first Presidential canidate that had been divorced.
If Jesus ran they would probably talk about the time he "went out of control" in the temple...
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Re: Unbound: The Conscience of a Republican Delega

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It isn't about which candidate can win or lose. This isn't about Ted Cruz.

In order to begin fixing the system from being further broken, we need to make sure that the Delegates are always unbound. Read the pdf.

This is important and it is the right time to get it done.

And, BTW, talk about violating finance laws, which the Corleone, er, Trump family don't pay attention to:

You continue to be in denial. The delegates should not be free to go against the will of the people. Had the delegates been free in 1980 I guarantee you Reagan would have lost the nomination. ANY flaw of Trump is better than the establishment hack candidates. Get over it.
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PO - do you wish to free the electoral college delegates, as well?
The Convention delegates are not the same as the Election delegates.

The Convention is to settle on the nominee and to declare that person the winner, i.e, it is the nominating process.

This year we have a very different election. The current "so-called" Republican nominee is disliked by 64% of the Republican Party. He did not get the majority of the Republican Party votes and cannot seem to unite the party. I am wondering why you don't find that problematic? If Trump cannot unite the base, which he does not have, he cannot win. I am wondering why you don't find that problematic?

We have a process at Convention wherein we DO NOT have to support him. If he wins at Convention, the process moves to the General.
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You continue to be in denial. The delegates should not be free to go against the will of the people. Had the delegates been free in 1980 I guarantee you Reagan would have lost the nomination. ANY flaw of Trump is better than the establishment hack candidates. Get over it.
I just report the facts. If you don't want to see them, that's on you.
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Re: Unbound: The Conscience of a Republican Delega

Chapter 5: Why Should Delegates be Unbound

http://thisiscommonsense.com/pdf/Unbound_online.pdf

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Chapter 5 makes the argument that these protections for delegates’ freedom to vote their consciences are a necessary and positive aspect of the political process and the freedom of the Republican Party to avoid government intrusion into its internal matters.
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Re: Unbound: The Conscience of a Republican Delega

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The Convention delegates are not the same as the Election delegates.

The Convention is to settle on the nominee and to declare that person the winner, i.e, it is the nominating process.

This year we have a very different election. The current "so-called" Republican nominee is disliked by 64% of the Republican Party. He did not get the majority of the Republican Party votes and cannot seem to unite the party. I am wondering why you don't find that problematic? If Trump cannot unite the base, which he does not have, he cannot win. I am wondering why you don't find that problematic?

We have a process at Convention wherein we DO NOT have to support him. If he wins at Convention, the process moves to the General.
Trump received the vast majority of the votes in the Republican primary.
Can you give me your link for your assertion that he is disliked by 64% of Republicans?
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Re: Unbound: The Conscience of a Republican Delega

Trump can't unify the base, so we will free the delegates (of which he has the most) so they don't have to vote for him. Then we can vote for... uh... who exactly?

Yet another reason the GOP is a joke.
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Re: Unbound: The Conscience of a Republican Delega

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Trump received the vast majority of the votes in the Republican primary.
Can you give me your link for your assertion that he is disliked by 64% of Republicans?
Do your own homework on the stats. I thought you were a professional in that area.

For once, I agree with Jennifer Rubin:

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First, they should openly support a “conscience” clause provision and/or requirement that Trump release his tax returns, pony up enough money to ensure a well-funded campaign and immediately separate himself from his business ventures. If he won’t release his taxes, step away from business and use his billions — that’s what he says he is worth — to pay for his race, delegates should conclude that Trump is not trying to win. If he values his business over the party and country, the delegates should accommodate him and allow him to return to his business full time.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...9615&tid=ss_tw
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