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Old 12-12-2012, 02:49 PM
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Re: Christian D-Day!

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Many different groups of "Christendom" use
the Bible to prove contradictory teachings.
In the book Literal Interpretation of the Bible it says,
"Apparently the Bible can be made to prove almost anything."
Considering all the contradictions in the various
teachings all supposedly based on the Bible,
one must ask the question, "Who is right?"

Surely, God is not teaching, for example, that one
is saved by earning salvation by good works
and also teaching man is saved by God's Grace without works.

God cannot contradict Himself nor can He lie.
The question is then can God's truth be determined with absolute certainty?

Hanging in the balance is the very souls of men and their eternal destiny.
Except for the last line, I could have written this!
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Old 12-12-2012, 04:18 PM
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Re: Christian D-Day!

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Many different groups of "Christendom" use
the Bible to prove contradictory teachings.
In the book Literal Interpretation of the Bible it says,
"Apparently the Bible can be made to prove almost anything."
Considering all the contradictions in the various
teachings all supposedly based on the Bible,
one must ask the question, "Who is right?"

Surely, God is not teaching, for example, that one
is saved by earning salvation by good works
and also teaching man is saved by God's Grace without works.

God cannot contradict Himself nor can He lie.
The question is then can God's truth be determined with absolute certainty?

Hanging in the balance is the very souls of men and their eternal destiny.
When I first became a Christian and was baptized in Jesus Name, the simplicity of the gospel made me feel so clean..so special with God. Then came all the little 'you gottas' creeping it's way into my life with various people telling me I gotta do this and I gotta do that.

You are so right when you say that there are no contradictions with God. When life gets too heavy for me, I have to go back to Matthew 11:28-30 for proper perspective to be returned to me.

I feel your heart in your posts here. We have so many of satan's minions attacking the Christian people that we just strike out trying to knock them away instead of being focused on Christ and His message.
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:16 PM
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When Jesus, and the apostles, shared the gospel, signs and wonders, healings and deliverence followed. Today, the building-based 'church' entertainers will read one or two scriptures and give a short talk about life, stage elaborate plays about the bible, entertain with choreographed dances, blaring rock music and professional preachers attempting to advance in their denominational organization....but no signs and wonders, healings and deliverences.

If the power ain't there, there will be little or no change no matter what we do.
AMEN! AMEN! AND AMEN!!!!!

And I haven't seen any power for a long time.

I believe this applies.


Revelation 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:34 PM
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Re: Christian D-Day!

Look around you.
What do you see?
You see the Joel Osteen-type churches bulging out at the seams.
Churches--where pastors are unwilling to get involved
in anything "controversial," where pastors are content
to stay completely disengaged from anything
that might be deemed "political," and where
pastors refuse to even hear the truth of what
is really going on--are filled every Sunday.

They have the largest crowds,
biggest offerings, and most ornate buildings.
Why, in the name of common sense,
would you expect your pastor to "take a stand" or "get involved"?
Why should he?

You have--by your support, attendance,
and offerings--clearly told him that
you like him just the way he is!
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:15 PM
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:47 PM
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Many churches (not all, thank God!)
have adopted the ways of the world.

Humanistic psychology is trying to meet
people's problems IN the churches.

There will be NO help from that source.

Jesus Christ is the only answer.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:55 AM
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Many churches (not all, thank God!)
have adopted the ways of the world.

Humanistic psychology is trying to meet
people's problems IN the churches.

There will be NO help from that source.

Jesus Christ is the only answer.
That is why I can not find a church.
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:49 AM
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That is why I can not find a church.
You are not the only one.
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:29 AM
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Re: Christian D-Day!

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When Jesus, and the apostles, shared the gospel, signs and wonders, healings and deliverence followed. Today, the building-based 'church' entertainers will read one or two scriptures and give a short talk about life, stage elaborate plays about the bible, entertain with choreographed dances, blaring rock music and professional preachers attempting to advance in their denominational organization....but no signs and wonders, healings and deliverences.

If the power ain't there, there will be little or no change no matter what we do.
Just curious, why do you say there is no sign of healing, miracles and deliverance on these churches?

Do you follow their ministries and document the results? Not trying to be flippant, but just curious as to what you base this statement on? What fact?
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That is why I can not find a church.
Can't find a church why? None of them are holy enough?
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