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04-24-2007, 06:38 PM
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His Eminance, High Potatohead Potatotate
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Concerning this thread.... itching ears...
I think pew control in most churches is usually if done, allowed the man who pastors...
I think is some more questions to be asked tho...
1. Did the Man pioneer the Work?
2. Or was he voted in after a myriad of Pastors?
3. Were the Money people won to the Lord or were they there when He arrived?
4. If not won or there when He arrived where did the Money Folks come from? Another Assembly because they liked his preaching better or the music possibly?
5. Was he an ethical man and he or his wife not handing out invitations to everybody?
It's easy to talk about itchy ears and people who demand things... but there are so many of these questions that need answered before one can postulatet the situation...
As far as Pew Control... I've really seen very little in my lifetime to...
It's talked about.. but I haven't seen it much.. Most use it claim more authority than they already have... or to build themselves up in the Peoples Eyes.. Phrases Like.."BLess GOD.. THE PEW WILL NEVER TELL me how to Pastor" or something like that...
Out and Out rebellion God deals with.. but so many of these Guys are looking for greener pastures folks don't have enough time to get to know them anyways..
Unless they are a Son-in-Law....or Son... then most flocks.. don't really have a choice...
imo...
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04-24-2007, 06:39 PM
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Registered Member
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Wisconsin
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Originally Posted by Coonskinner
Sure enough?
The real article, and God didn't let them help you with something so far outside the realm of right?
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God took care of it, in His time. The men who spoke spoke the Word of God and it was very good. It was edifying to us.
I don't even feel too bad towards the people that did this. I just feel sorry for them, mostly.
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04-24-2007, 06:40 PM
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Non-Resident Redneck
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by revrandy
Concerning this thread.... itching ears...
I think pew control in most churches is usually if done, allowed the man who pastors...
I think is some more questions to be asked tho...
1. Did the Man pioneer the Work?
2. Or was he voted in after a myriad of Pastors?
3. Were the Money people won to the Lord or were they there when He arrived?
4. If not won or there when He arrived where did the Money Folks come from? Another Assembly because they liked his preaching better or the music possibly?
5. Was he an ethical man and he or his wife not handing out invitations to everybody?
It's easy to talk about itchy ears and people who demand things... but there are so many of these questions that need answered before one can postulatet the situation...
As far as Pew Control... I've really seen very little in my lifetime to...
It's talked about.. but I haven't seen it much.. Most use it claim more authority than they already have... or to build themselves up in the Peoples Eyes.. Phrases Like.."BLess GOD.. THE PEW WILL NEVER TELL me how to Pastor" or something like that...
Out and Out rebellion God deals with.. but so many of these Guys are looking for greener pastures folks don't have enough time to get to know them anyways..
Unless they are a Son-in-Law....or Son... then most flocks.. don't really have a choice...
imo...
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Rev,
Pentecost is a pretty bleak place for some folks, I guess.
I have been blessed I suppose.
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04-24-2007, 06:40 PM
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His Eminance, High Potatohead Potatotate
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If a Man is called To pastor... his ears will be scratched by God.. and not those in the pew... He will know when to lift them up.. and know when to shut things down...
Those that are just looking for a job will be blown by every little wind...
imo...
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04-24-2007, 06:41 PM
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His Eminance, High Potatohead Potatotate
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Originally Posted by Coonskinner
Rev,
Pentecost is a pretty bleak place for some folks, I guess.
I have been blessed I suppose.
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Me too!!
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04-24-2007, 06:42 PM
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Non-Resident Redneck
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Originally Posted by ILG
God took care of it, in His time. The men who spoke spoke the Word of God and it was very good. It was edifying to us.
I don't even feel too bad towards the people that did this. I just feel sorry for them, mostly.
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As I do for the man God dealt with so dramatically in our congregation.
I will say this--that incident lifted the fear of God and the reverence for the things of the Spirit to a new level among our people. It turned out to be a very good thing for the flock, but tragic for the man.
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04-24-2007, 06:51 PM
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uncharismatic conservative maverick
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Indiana
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Originally Posted by Coonskinner
I have never, ever had a saint try to control what I preach in the church where I pastor. Not even one time.
I have had several folks from local charismatic churches visit us, and after a few services, tell me how they loved my preaching, how the anointing they feel here is unlike anything they have ever experienced in their church, etc.
Then they give me the line about how if I would just back off on a few of those, "you know, outward things you believe..." that I would soon empty every charismatic church in town.
I have had the same speech from a number of different ones...lol
I just laugh and tell them to connect the dots.
Our doctrine and separation is what makes us different than what they are used to. If we became like them, the thing that originally appealed to them would be gone.
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Amen, I like your style! My dad was a home missionary and they would tell him the same thing, "ya know if you let down on certain standards, your church would get large in a hurry" I am glad for men like him.
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04-24-2007, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Thad
I've seen the Money People, the Big tithers do this in some instances. ...
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Funny that those in UPCI who want to change things tend to be the money folks who rant about their giving, at least some in N LA. But, in a word: it's about revival!!!
NI
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04-24-2007, 09:56 PM
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His Eminance, High Potatohead Potatotate
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by NobodyImportant
Funny that those in UPCI who want to change things tend to be the money folks who rant about their giving, at least some in N LA. But, in a word: it's about revival!!!
NI
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Do you mean Testify? or Rant? not sure what you mean here?
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04-24-2007, 10:04 PM
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Not riding the train
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Originally Posted by nathan_slatter
You know, I don't think I've ever seen it. I've seen content change once a pastors child got to be a certain age and that which WAS wrong -- was no longer.
It's a good question. I've seen the accusations but haven't ever really experienced it.
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I don't believe I have ever seen it either.
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