Coop I apologize.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by COOPER

I get personal attacks about the issue.
I get called names and insulted often, and I often suck it up.
I repeated get called a basher, hater, anti-bible, anti-upc, anti-standards, cry baby, whiner, obsessive, insinuations that I am a wife beater, rebellious, accused that I have demons etc, etc, etc...........
I have been sucking it up for two years. I say that pretty good.

apparantly you stopped today.

and by the way, the list of those that have said these things of you, are not exclusively UPCI or Standards keepers. Doesnt it say something to you when someone who doesnt keep standards calls your hand on this?

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Ferd

apparantly you stopped today.

and by the way, the list of those that have said these things of you, are not exclusively UPCI or Standards keepers. Doesnt it say something to you when someone who doesnt keep standards calls your hand on this?

It simply means some often get personal when they speak to me.
But there are others that are Ex-UPC that would say how they felt but don't.
They are glad I do.

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Just so we get this completley clear. You get to say what ever you want with no repercussions about those of us who hold to standards, but taking issue with you over your continual running us down is off limits?



again, You asked if I am trying to censor you. but I am the one who has been censored....at your request.


You still not seeing it?

I have had plenty of my thread deleted.
so what?

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by COOPER

It simply means some often get personal when they speak to me.
But there are others that are Ex-UPC that would say how they felt but don't.
They are glad I do.

I see. you stand up for a down trodden class that cannot stand for themselves. (please let Carp know you are standing up for him).


once again, getting to the point.

Just so we get this completley clear. You get to say what ever you want with no repercussions about those of us who hold to standards, but taking issue with you over your continual running us down is off limits?

[COOPER]

Ferd, I do not start trouble at GNC.
I respect there rules.
I know they are happy in Holiness.
I respect there convictions.
Why give me a hard time here were many are ex-upc?
Why not accept that I like to talk about?

On this forum we are free to express whatever our feelings are....both of you need to recognize you will probably never change each others mind on this "appology"

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Ferd

I see. you stand up for a down trodden class that cannot stand for themselves. (please let Carp know you are standing up for him).


once again, getting to the point.

Just so we get this completley clear. You get to say what ever you want with no repercussions about those of us who hold to standards, but taking issue with you over your continual running us down is off limits?

I do not get to say what ever I want.
I am trying hard to be very careful not get personal or insulting with other posters about UPC issues.
But as soon As I start an Ex-UPC here come the insults.
You tell me.

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by jollyrancher

On this forum we are free to express whatever our feelings are....both of you need to recognize you will probably never change each others mind on this "apology"

As long as one doesn't get personal with another poster.
This is the debate.
It has nothing to do with changing anyones convictions or core beliefs.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by COOPER

Ferd, I do not start trouble at GNC.
I respect there rules.
I know they are happy in Holiness.
I respect there convictions.
Why give me a hard time here were many are ex-upc?
Why not accept that I like to talk about?

who said anything about the GNC? Not me.

and I have not unaccepted what you are saying here except to engage you in discussion.


the point is, I have been taken to task for what I have said to you when what I have said is no more offensive than what you insist is your right to say.

I just want you to clarify that you can and I cant.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by jollyrancher

On this forum we are free to express whatever our feelings are....both of you need to recognize you will probably never change each others mind on this "appology"

I would apprecaite you letting us work this out...